AA77 FDR Data, Explained

[Jonnyclueless]

It's just getting harder and harder to not laugh. Gosh, and I wonder why the media and authorities don't take these guys seriously.

But yeah, they're all delusional. It's the people who think that panes were flown over the buildings explosives planted, whoole plants planted in front of 1000s of people, light poles knocked down in front of 1000s of people, that 1000s of people there happened to miss all of this going on in front of them and mistakenly saw a plane hitting the building. Those are the level headed ones.

How am I not supposed to laugh? Seriously.

 

[funk de fino]

Why not before?

Who says it was AA77?

Original news broadcasts claimed that it did not appear a plane had crashed.
We also heard talk of a small commuter jet, etc.

This was a cherrypicking lie by your stupid movement again

 

[nicepants]

Original news broadcasts claimed that it did not appear a plane had crashed.
We also heard talk of a small commuter jet, etc.

I thought that news broadcasts couldn't be trusted since they are all controlled by the evil gubmint? Or is it that they can be trusted as long as they're saying something you agree with?

The twoofers on this thread have really taken a downward turn. Faced with the facts they always resort back to the old truther classic "throw 100 arguments up against the wall and see what sticks".

 

[beachnut]

... fine research done by CIT, ...
Your delusions are simply that.

Your ignorance of physics is showing and you are off topic; why? You have no clue on 9/11.

The delusion is yours. Will this be the last important evidence to support your ideas on the topic you have no clue you just posted in cause Turbofan actually puts some tech terms with his delusion.

 

[Baylor]

Other than the fine research done by CIT, which completely blows away the OCT, there isnt anything to support you wild assertion above.

The CIT "research" was so "fine" that they tried to prove Lagasse right and they ended up proving him wrong, like when Lagasse placed the light poles and taxi NORTH of Citgo. Great job boys.

 

[pomeroo]

Your 1000's of witnesses statement has been completely debunked. It holds zero water. People the Govt "CLAIMED" as witnesses have been interviewed, and the real truth has emerged.

Other than the fine research done by CIT, which completely blows away the OCT, there isnt anything to support you wild assertion above.

Your delusions are simply that.

Yes, I've always been impressed by the way the deranged frauds of the CIT hammer, badger, and lead their witnesses who, oddly enough, end up saying that (drumroll, please) A COMMERCIAL AIRLINER HIT THE PENTAGON. Isn't it funny how ALL of the CIT's witnesses agree on that point?

I don't understand--you're not amused.

For once you are right. A real truth has emerged: AA Flight 77 was flown into the Pentagon by jihadist hijackers and everyone on the plane died in the crash.

 

[bje]

Food for thought:

Who said the fly over plane passed over at the exact moment of the
exploision?

Craig, Aldo, SPreston, and TC329.

 

[JimBenArm]

I believe the plane passed the explosion at the same moment. Of course I believe that's because the explosion was caused by the plane hitting the Pentagon.

 

[bje]

Your 1000's of witnesses statement has been completely debunked. It holds zero water. People the Govt "CLAIMED" as witnesses have been interviewed, and the real truth has emerged.

Other than the fine research done by CIT, which completely blows away the OCT, there isnt anything to support you wild assertion above.

Your delusions are simply that.

Don't be ridiculous, roundhead. Craig and Aldo are on record of refusing to provide any testimony whatsoever of the over 1,000 people who saw, handled, recovered, or sorted through the wreckage from inside the Pentagon in the days and weeks after 9/11. And they claimed to be "investigators."

How can you come here in complete denial of that when there are whole threads for the last 2 years on the subject?

Are you that stupid, roundhead?

 

[jaydeehess]

Other than the fine research done by CIT, which completely blows away the OCT, there isnt anything to support you wild assertion above.

Your delusions are simply that.

Sure, fine research, Robert Turcois points south when first asked where he saw the plane, Ranke asks if maybe it was more directly over the station , Robert says maybe, Ranke then suggests that only the right wing was over the canopy and Robert says OK. Fine, unbiased, objective research there.

Oh that and the whole, every single witness who was in a position to see the aircraft says it hit the Pentagon including all of the supposed NoC witnesses! I cannot understand why "60 Minutes" has not been begging Ranke to become one of their investigative reporters!

 

[Bananaman]

Pom:

For once you are right. A real truth has emerged: AA Flight 77 was flown into the Pentagon by jihadist hijackers and everyone on the plane died in the crash.

Incontrovertible truth, for once.


Bananaman.

 

[Arus808]

Please dont let this turn into another realstice thread. I've seen the same claims repeated from page 20 on page 69.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

You know if the CIT, spanky, and gang went the Alien route then they could just dismiss all the evidence with superior alien technology. I think that would be much easier. How did they fly a plane over the building without the 1000s of people there noticing? Alien technology.

I mean since we're just making wild baseless conjecture right?

 

[pomeroo]

Pom:


Incontrovertible truth, for once.


Bananaman.

This game has grown extremely boring, and I don't think I'm the only debunker who has reached that conclusion. The loons peddle the same worthless garbage month after month. They get smashed in debates here and they just keep recycling ancient discredited junk. The deranged Ace Baker has churned out seventy-eight pages containing all of his nonsensical claims that have been shot down repeatedly. The idiots of the CIT have established that all of their witnesses saw the plane hit the Pentagon. Other loons cling to magic, soundless explosives that were planted by invisible demolition teams.

You can't imagine my feelings as I wandered around Ground Zero asking one jackass after another to tell me what happened on that terrible day seven years ago. They are clueless and they don't care. They mindlessly chant, wave signs, shake their fists at empty windows in government office buildings--these people are fools. A dozen or so morons were demanding that Larry Silverstein be arrested. I asked them why a man who had clearly done nothing wrong should be arrested and was told that he "pulled" WTC 7. They don't care that no one who works in demolition recognizes the term as industry slang. They just don't care.

The despicable fraud David Ray Griffin keeps pumping out worthless drivel. Idiots like Jesse Ventura parade their ignorance and stupidity before national audiences. There is little point to what we're doing here. The general public has rejected the fantasy movement overwhelmingly. You can't, as Swift observed, reason someone out of something he was never reasoned into. That, unfortunately, is what we're attempting here on the JREF.

We are wasting our time.

 

[MacGyverS2000]

Bringing this to the top and subscribing so I can better answer questions in the split thread:
"Turbofan's Engineering forum links"

 

[Caustic Logic]

Bringing this to the top and subscribing so I can better answer questions in the split thread:
"Turbofan's Engineering forum links"

WORD! And welcome. Apologies for any wrecking of your forum by our members, if indeed you are that Macgyver person. Turbo just posted something new up there.

ETA: Actually if you have anything useful for explaining the FDR data, perhaps this thread is where it belongs. That other is about Turbofan being called out for calling out Mackey, and about narrow issues in contention.

THIS thread is still short on good explanations for missing data, in the order of 6 seconds or so... THAT one's just short on Turbo getting someone to slap Mackey...

 

[jaydeehess]

WORD! And welcome. Apologies for any wrecking of your forum by our members, if indeed you are that Macgyver person. Turbo just posted something new up there.

ETA: Actually if you have anything useful for explaining the FDR data, perhaps this thread is where it belongs. That other is about Turbofan being called out for calling out Mackey, and about narrow issues in contention.

THIS thread is still short on good explanations for missing data, in the order of 6 seconds or so... THAT one's just short on Turbo getting someone to slap Mackey...

The two threads are very close and MG2K has already posted more than once with a technical response to the question at hand in the other thread. Perhaps it would be simpler just to leave all his responses in that thread given that he wishes not to be a long time contributor to the JREF forum.

 

[Caustic Logic]

The two threads are very close and MG2K has already posted more than once with a technical response to the question at hand in the other thread. Perhaps it would be simpler just to leave all his responses in that thread given that he wishes not to be a long time contributor to the JREF forum.

yep, agreed, just saw that. I type too fast and think too slow. What have I, what have I, what have I done to deserve this? (Pet Shop Boys fans only need understand that). 17 minutes possible?! I'll have to read that more carefully now...

 

[jaydeehess]

basically ONE senario would be that an erase command was erroneously given to a block (normally 17 minutes worth of data when full) but that block had only had 6 seconds worth written to it when the erasure occurs.

 

[WildCat]

Bumping since TF is back.

Have the pretend FDR experts at PffffT had their findings corroborated by real FDR experts yet?

If not, why not?