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Split Thread AA77 FBI Investigation [split from: AA77 FDR Data, Explained]

Guys, I fear this is going to be just like the NSA document thread. 40 pages of posts of Ultima saying the same thing over-and-over-and-over again, completely disregarding rational thought and solid evidence to the contrary.
 
I will repeat this 1 more time for the closed minded and evidence impaired.

If you cannot figure out that the FBI only spent 5 days on the crime scene investigation then i suggest you get help to understand it.

This source (along with several other sources) state that the FBI took control of the crime scene on Sept 21. The FBI then estimated it would last a month. The FBI handed the crime scen back to the military on Sept 26, showing that they only worked the scene for 5 days.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=44840
WASHINGTON, Sept. 24, 2001 – The FBI assumed crime-scene jurisdiction at the Pentagon terrorist attack site Sept. 21 from the Arlington County (Va.) Fire Department, officials said.

FBI officials estimate the crime scene investigation would last about a month, Arlington Fire Chief Edward P. Plaugher said. He said he expects "additional remains will be discovered during the course of the FBI investigation" and mortuary specialists will remain on site to process them.


http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/n0..._200109266.html
WASHINGTON, Sept. 26, 2001 -- The FBI handed over Pentagon crash site management to the Army Military District of Washington at 7 a.m. today.

The transfer of responsibility marks the end of the FBI's crime scene investigation following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack against the Pentagon.
MDW will oversee ongoing security operations around the damaged area of the building. FBI investigators will move their operations to the Pentagon's north parking lot and continue to sift through debris for more evidence.
 
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It's hard to imagine being more totally wrong than Ultima1 is. What drives him to humiliate himself?

You and others are really humiliting yourselves and showing how immature you are for not being able to accept so many facts and so much evidence from several verifiable sources.
 
You and others are really humiliting yourselves and showing how immature you are for not being able to accept so many facts and so much evidence from several verifiable sources.

Look, this is the last time I will engage you on this madness. The FBI arrived on the scene almost immediately after the attack on the Pentagon. The investigation began AT ONCE. EVERYBODY gets the idea. You keep showing dates for this jurisdictional decision and that, but the FBI started work immediately. The bureau's "work" is TO INVESTIGATE CRIMES.

NOBODY THINKS THAT THE FBI DID NO INVESTIGATIVE WORK UNTIL TWO WEEKS AFTER THE ATTACK.

Please stop.
 
Where are you official documents that state when the crime scene investigation started and ended? This is what you require of us. Follow your own standard.
 
Look, this is the last time I will engage you on this madness. .


Please be adult enough to accept and admit that the evidence provided shows that the FBI did not OFFICIALLY START THE CRIME SCENE INVESTIAGTION UNTILL SEPT 21.

The Washington Post - Washington, D.C.
Author: Josh White and Patricia Davis
Date: Sep 22, 2001
Start Page: B.04
Section: METRO
Text Word Count: 741

The FBI yesterday officially took control of the site where an American Airlines jet crashed into the Pentagon, ending 10 arduous days of search, rescue and recovery efforts and giving way to a lengthy criminal investigation.
 
Where are you official documents that state when the crime scene investigation started and ended? This is what you require of us. Follow your own standard.

I have shown an official document why can't you be adult enough to accept them?

Unless you can show the Department of Defense document is not official.
 
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I have shown an official document why can't you be adult enough to accept them?

Unless you can show the Department of Defense document is not official.
You have only showed news articles. Where are the official FBI documents that state the state the start and stop date?
 
I have shown an official document why can't you be adult enough to accept them?

Unless you can show the Department of Defense document is not official.

Please be adult enough to admit you can't debate me with facts and evidence.
 
Where are you official documents that state when the crime scene investigation started and ended? This is what you require of us. Follow your own standard.


I have been guilty of doing what you're doing. 911files has the right idea. Every sane person understands that the FBI's investigation began when agents arrived on the scene. Ultima1 will keep referring to inter-agency jurisdictional decisions to pretend, for bizarre reasons that can't even be guessed, that the FBI did NO investigative work for ten days. I have read many posts since I joined last month. I see the warnings about focusing on the arguments, not the arguers. There comes a point when you have to decide that the arguer IS the argument. If the arguer is irrational, no argument, in a formal sense, is possible. You just produce this endless, insane wrangling over a non-issue.
 
Please be adult enough to accept and admit that the evidence provided shows that the FBI did not OFFICIALLY START THE CRIME SCENE INVESTIAGTION UNTILL SEPT 21.

The Washington Post - Washington, D.C.
Author: Josh White and Patricia Davis
Date: Sep 22, 2001
Start Page: B.04
Section: METRO
Text Word Count: 741

The FBI yesterday officially took control of the site where an American Airlines jet crashed into the Pentagon, ending 10 arduous days of search, rescue and recovery efforts and giving way to a lengthy criminal investigation.


A child could grasp the fact that search, rescue, and recovery efforts took precedence over the pure criminal investigation for the first ten days. Everything the FBI did to assist other agencies in those efforts was PART OF ITS INVESTIGATION. It is impossible to be this obtuse.
 
The FBI yesterday officially took control of the site where an American Airlines jet crashed into the Pentagon, ending 10 arduous days of search, rescue and recovery efforts and giving way to a lengthy criminal investigation.

Took control of the site. However, they had been gathering evidence and investigating since the day of the attack.

Please come back when you can debate our facts and evidence.
 
Thanks for showing you will not accept facts and evidence.
Hearsay is never considered a fact. The fact is that you require official documents and you refuse to accept anything else. Now you are claiming that you don't need to present them. You would never accept what the fire department says about the FBI from us. Follow your own standard.
 
You would never accept what the fire department says about the FBI from us. Follow your own standard.

I can show facts and evidence, its your track record that shows you cannot post or accept facts and evidence.
 
I can show facts and evidence, its your track record that shows you cannot post or accept facts and evidence.
That's the thing. You have been shown facts and evidence that you refuse to accept because it doesn't live up to the standard that you refuse to follow. Where are you official FBI documents that show the start and end date of the crime scene investigation?
 
That's the thing. You have been shown facts and evidence that you refuse to accept because it doesn't live up to the standard that you refuse to follow. Where are you official FBI documents that show the start and end date of the crime scene investigation?

How many documents do i have to post before you will be adult enough to accept them?

I will not post anymore documents untill you can show me that you can accept and admit to documents shown.
 
How many documents will it take this time ?

Start date Sept 21 as shown by sources you cannot debate.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=44840
WASHINGTON, Sept. 24, 2001 – The FBI assumed crime-scene jurisdiction at the Pentagon terrorist attack site Sept. 21 from the Arlington County (Va.) Fire Department, officials said.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washing...ia+Davis&desc=FBI+Takes+Over+at+Pentagon+Site
The Washington Post - Washington, D.C.
Author: Josh White and Patricia Davis
Date: Sep 22, 2001
Start Page: B.04
Section: METRO
Text Word Count: 741

The FBI yesterday officially took control of the site where an American Airlines jet crashed into the Pentagon, ending 10 arduous days of search, rescue and recovery efforts and giving way to a lengthy criminal investigation.


Stop date Sept 26.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/n0..._200109266.html
WASHINGTON, Sept. 26, 2001 -- The FBI handed over Pentagon crash site management to the Army Military District of Washington at 7 a.m. today.

The transfer of responsibility marks the end of the FBI's crime scene investigation following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack against the Pentagon.

http://www.epa.gov/compliance/crimin...urity/911.html
On September 12, the FBI declared the Pentagon a crime scene, and EPA Special Agents were on the scene assisting in decontamination, gathering crime scene evidence (photography, videotaping, evidence gathering, etc.) and supplying other investigative and technical support to the FBI. In addition, EPA Special Agents assisted with body recovery and site safety until September 27, when the agents departed after the FBI returned the site to the control of the Department of Defense and FEMA.

Roger. The above post is your handy work. YOU posted it.

Can you read your own above sources and find the sentences that refute all you say? I can, 911files can, Joey can Gamolon can, in fact everyone else can - Why cant you? You posted it. Did you actually bother to read first?

I have highlighted in RED the areas of significance. Reading comprehension isnt really required as its self explanatory. Please try
 

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