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[angrysoba]

Very interesting post above.

And taking the world cup analogy one step forard I know how we can prove the the CD once and for all. We just need Paul the Octopos to chose either NIST or CD.

And if it choses CD then I think the argument will be settled.

And if he chooses NIST we'll know who the conspirators are!

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[alienentity]

Very interesting post above.

And taking the world cup analogy one step forard I know how we can prove the the CD once and for all. We just need Paul the Octopos to chose either NIST or CD.

And if it choses CD then I think the argument will be settled.

Personally I find Ouija boards far more accurate. When combined with divining rods you just can't miss.

 

[Bell]

So where are the other examples I asked for that you may draw on from the entire recorded history of the planet Earth that demonstrate what you say ?

I really can't be nbothered with rubbish like this.

You really really really don't care about our answers, do you? We have explained all your failed logic (1/10th can't crush 9/10, first time in history...) multiple times to you, but you either are unable to process anything presented to you (in which case you should seek out a doctor) or you just choose to ignore all our answers, which frankly is very rude and disrespectful to all the members that put their time and effort into answering you.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Back to the Spaghetti model tower. BillSmith, are you totaly unaware that mass doesn't scale in the way you think it does. A1 Class Pacific the Flying Scotsman weighs 97 and a half tons Tons. I have a cast and etched metal model of the Scotsman in 'OO' 1/72 scale. If scale worked as you think it should weight well over a ton in fact it weighs about 2 pounds.

Dropping some spaghetti on some more spaghetti will not replicate the collapse of one of the towers.

 

[dafydd]

You don't actually believe that **** do you Bill?

The idiocity in that post is staggering.

He doesn't believe it,but he has to compete with Telltale Tom for the title of Best Troll.

 

[bill smith]

Back to the Spaghetti model tower. BillSmith, are you totaly unaware that mass doesn't scale in the way you think it does. A1 Class Pacific the Flying Scotsman weighs 97 and a half tons Tons. I have a cast and etched metal model of the Scotsman in 'OO' 1/72 scale. If scale worked as you think it should weight well over a ton in fact it weighs about 2 pounds.

Dropping some spaghetti on some more spaghetti will not replicate the collapse of one of the towers.

It doesn't have to be a perfect model. Just good enough for people to get a clear picture in their minds about the top and lightest one tenth of a structure not crushing the lower and stronger nine-tenths of the same structure down flat n the ground by gravity alone after a small drop.

The model works beautiifully in that regard and I will be improving it in due course.

 

[Bell]

It doesn't have to be a perfect model. Just good enough for people to get a clear picture in their minds about the top and lightest one tenth of a structure not crushing the lower and stronger nine-tenths of the same structure down flat n the ground by gravity alone after a small drop.

The model works beautiifully in that regard and I will be improving it in due course.

Complete failure by you to understand anything anyone posts to you noted. Really Bill, you are really not interested, are you? Why post here if you don't care about the responses?

 

[angrysoba]

It doesn't have to be a perfect model. Just good enough for people to get a clear picture in their minds about the top and lightest one tenth of a structure not crushing the lower and stronger nine-tenths of the same structure down flat n the ground by gravity alone after a small drop.

The model works beautiifully in that regard and I will be improving it in due course.

Using linguine perhaps?

I think you should get this model off to Richard Gage. I'd LOVE to see him present it in a debate.

 

[bill smith]

Using linguine perhaps?

I think you should get this model off to Richard Gage. I'd LOVE to see him present it in a debate.

The model I would like Richard Gage to have is a lego scale model.
6 feet 6 inches tall or so and with scaled photos stuck on so that the building looked wuthentic. Then he could unplug the top one-tenth and show people the 85%-plus of columns that still connected the upper one-tenth to the lower nine-tenths in WTC1 after the plane crash and fires.

But I think that the image alone would tell viewers all they need to know. I don't really think he would need to belabour the point.

 

[Dog Town]

The model I would like richard Gage to have is a lego scale model.
6 feet 6 inches tall or so and with scaled photos stuck on so that the building looked wuthentic. Then he could unplug the top one-tenth and show people the 85%-plus of columns that still connected the upper one tenth to the lower nine-tenths in WTC1 after the plane crash and fires.

But I think that the image alone would tell viewers all they need to know. I don't relly think he would need to belabour the point.

Why is it twoofers can't grasp scale? Does it so totally destroy their illusions?
Don't bother answering BS. The readers already know!

 

[angrysoba]

The model I would like Richard Gage to have is a lego scale model.
6 feet 6 inches tall or so and with scaled photos stuck on so that the building looked wuthentic. Then he could unplug the top one-tenth and show people the 85%-plus of columns that still connected the upper one-tenth to the lower nine-tenths in WTC1 after the plane crash and fires.

But I think that the image alone would tell viewers all they need to know. I don't really think he would need to belabour the point.

Weren't the cardboard boxes "woothentic" enough?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

The model I would like Richard Gage to have is a lego scale model.
6 feet 6 inches tall or so and with scaled photos stuck on so that the building looked wuthentic. Then he could unplug the top one-tenth and show people the 85%-plus of columns that still connected the upper one-tenth to the lower nine-tenths in WTC1 after the plane crash and fires.

But I think that the image alone would tell viewers all they need to know. I don't really think he would need to belabour the point.

Lego World already has WTC models built out of legos. Where have you been Bill, frozen in carbonite all this time??

 

[bill smith]

Delete: Moved to another thread. See hyperlink

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6146879&postcount=309 hyperlink

 

[excaza]

Yeah, that's a perfect representation of the structural properties of the WTC.

 

[bill smith]

Yeah, that's a perfect representation of the structural properties of the WTC.

Richard would of course it make quite clear that he is not making that claim. But I think it could be massively effective anyway..

 

[Oystein]

Very interesting post above.

And taking the world cup analogy one step forard I know how we can prove the the CD once and for all. We just need Paul the Octopos to chose either NIST or CD.

And if it choses CD then I think the argument will be settled.

And if he chooses NIST we'll know who the conspirators are!

[qimg]http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20080213NaziOctopus1938.jpg[/qimg]

[/twoof]

LMAO

Dang, how can one nominate two posts in conjunction for the language award??

 

[Oystein]

It doesn't have to be a perfect model. Just good enough for people to get a clear picture in their minds about the top and lightest one tenth of a structure not crushing the lower and stronger nine-tenths of the same structure down flat n the ground by gravity alone after a small drop.

The model works beautiifully in that regard and I will be improving it in due course.

Hopefully your improvement will contain such elements as "total mass of spaghetti tower >= 1 metric ton ^footnote", "columns modelled using 6 pounds of spaghetti", "top part that falls on lower part weighs >= 150kg, or the equivalent of 2 grown men falling ^footnote".

If so, then people would indeed get a clear picture in their minds, namely that two men falling on 6 packs of dispersed spahghetti will crash through to a painful ground.



footnote: the 1 metric ton and 150kg are very low estimates. Derived at by taking a low value for the strength of spaghetti and a high value of 5 for the safety factor of the support columns with regard to static loads. A high estimate might yield 6 to 8 times the masses I gave

 

[bill smith]

Hopefully your improvement will contain such elements as "total mass of spaghetti tower >= 1 metric ton ^footnote", "columns modelled using 6 pounds of spaghetti", "top part that falls on lower part weighs >= 150kg, or the equivalent of 2 grown men falling ^footnote".

If so, then people would indeed get a clear picture in their minds, namely that two men falling on 6 packs of dispersed spahghetti will crash through to a painful ground.



footnote: the 1 metric ton and 150kg are very low estimates. Derived at by taking a low value for the strength of spaghetti and a high value of 5 for the safety factor of the support columns with regard to static loads. A high estimate might yield 6 to 8 times the masses I gave

It's fascinating isn't it ? Maybe the readers will have a look at that after they consult their own intuition.

 

[Oystein]

The model I would like Richard Gage to have is a lego scale model.
6 feet 6 inches tall or so and with scaled photos stuck on so that the building looked wuthentic. Then he could unplug the top one-tenth and show people the 85%-plus of columns that still connected the upper one-tenth to the lower nine-tenths in WTC1 after the plane crash and fires.

But I think that the image alone would tell viewers all they need to know. I don't really think he would need to belabour the point.

Assuming that lego is a lot stronger than spaghetti, that model would have to have a mass of many many tons.
Good luck figuring out just how many. I suppose your lego tower could support a tank. Static load.
So drop a tank on it, and people will understand.

 

[bill smith]

Assuming that lego is a lot stronger than spaghetti, that model would have to have a mass of many many tons.
Good luck figuring out just how many. I suppose your lego tower could support a tank. Static load.
So drop a tank on it, and people will understand.

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How many tons would a lego WTC1 model 6' 6'' weigh ? ' Many many tons ' you said ? Watch this readers..