A Truther writes...

[DGM]

If 10% of an item can crush the lower and stronger 90% of the same structure by gravity alone then you will surely be able to show the readers other examples of this happening. Choose any example from the recorded history of this planet

Show me where 10% actually crushed 90%.

 

[bill smith]

This one's better Bill:

[qimg]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ub20K-o0cio/Sxz5_uY4OuI/AAAAAAAAADM/w9gLVk5vfCs/s400/GageWithBoxes.jpg[/qimg]

Some Truthers I know are incensed when that picture is shown, "OoooOOoooh! You're making Gage look stupid!" They howl!

No, Gage makes Gage look stupid. And he keeps doing it.

You should explain what Richard Gage is demonstrating in the picture. Can you do that ?

 

[bill smith]

Show me where 10% actually crushed 90%.

Readers...I take it that you have your eye on DGM by now ?

 

[Oystein]

If 10% of an item can crush the lower and stronger 90% of the same structure by gravity alone then you will surely be able to show the readers other examples of this happening. Choose any example from the recorded history of this planet

Domino Day.

There, the fall of 1 domino stone resulted in the falling of 4,491,863 domino stones. By gravity alone.

Such domino cascades typically work just fine even if you gradually increase size and mass of the stones.
If set up right, a domino stone could in theory eventually topple structures the size of the twin towers.

 

[Bell]

If 10% of an item can crush the lower and stronger 90% of the same structure by gravity alone then you will surely be able to show the readers other examples of this happening. Choose any example from the recorded history of this planet

You are putting it like the top crushed the whole building all at one moment. In reality the top ~15 floors in WTC1 and ~30 in WTC2 crushed 1 floor. Then ~15 + 1 floors crushed another 1 floor and so on and so on.

 

[DGM]

Readers...I take it that you have your eye on DGM by now ?

What the "readers" have noticed is that you choose to ignore that as the top 10% was falling it picked up parts of the bottom 90%. These parts are now added to the top 10%. Gravity's funny like that.


Why do you ignore what's added as the top 10% falls?


"Reader" are waiting for your answer!

 

[Dog Town]

Readers...I take it that you have your eye on DGM by now ?

Why yes, yes we do. It's informative, and fun to watch, your pathetic theories crushed, by DGM along with others.

Thank you for the laughs, BS!



It's why this sub-forum should remain open!

 

[bill smith]

You are putting it like the top crushed the whole building all at one moment. In reality the top ~15 floors in WTC1 and ~30 in WTC2 crushed 1 floor. Then ~15 + 1 floors crushed another 1 floor and so on and so on.

Well do you have any other example of this happening in the history of the planet Earth ? Obviously a principle like this cannot only have been a one-off ?

 

[bill smith]

Why yes, yes we do. It's informative, and fun to watch, your pathetic theories crushed, by DGM along with others.

Thank you for the laughs, BS!

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It's why this sub-forum should remain open!

I would be willing to bet that you will not survive another 12 months. You are an utter liability to the government now and will be shut down sooner rather than later.

 

[Oystein]

If 10% of an item can crush the lower and stronger 90% of the same structure by gravity alone then you will surely be able to show the readers other examples of this happening. Choose any example from the recorded history of this planet

Avalanches.

A skier (mass: 75kg) can trigger an Avalanche that destroys trees, vehicles and even villages.

So the top 1% of a snowy slope can crush the 99% of lower and stonger structures. By gravity alone.

 

[Bell]

Well do you have any other example of this happening in the history of the planet Earth ? Obviously a principle like this cannot only have been a one-off ?

Example or not. Why could something not have happened for the first time or have been a one off? History is full of examples of one offs. Lucky so, because else nothing would ever happen. Ever.

 

[bill smith]

What the "readers" have noticed is that you choose to ignore that as the top 10% was falling it picked up parts of the bottom 90%. These parts are now added to the top 10%. Gravity's funny like that.


Why do you ignore what's added as the top 10% falls?


"Reader" are waiting for your answer!

I invite the Readers to go back several posts to where I laid out my spaghetti model. Then they can use theiir minds eye to envision the collapse occurring as you describe. My intuition tells me that their intuition will not buy it..

 

[DGM]

I invite the Readers to go back several posts to where I laid out my spaghetti model. Then they can use theiir minds eye to envision the collapse occurring as you describe. My intuition tells me that their intuition will not buy it..

Bill: Your dodging (and the readers see it).

Do you think that the top "block" did not pick up any mass from the bottom "block"?

This is a very simple question. Answer truthfully and you might start to understand why the collapse progressed as seen. (If you really care to)

 

[angrysoba]

Am I reading that web site wrong?

Yes.

I wrote this:

"Yusef was the nephew of Khalid Sheikh Muhammed "

Whoops! That is to say that Yusef was KSM's uncle despite being younger.

Posted by: angrysoba at January 28, 2010 7:36 AM

Which was followed by "Nikko" who wrote this:

No matter whether the buildings were properly constructed or not, the undisputed facts are that all three buildings collapsed in freefall time. Unless Newtonian physics were suspended in NY on 9/11, that implies that all of the potential energy the buildings possessed by virtue of their height had to be converted to kinetic energy to make it to the ground in the time they did. No further energy would be left to collapse the building and break the joints. It is impossible for the buildins to have collapsed of their own accord, particularly as the path was that of the greatest resistance

Posted by: Nikko at January 28, 2010 7:44 AM

To which I wrote:

"No matter whether the buildings were properly constructed or not, the undisputed facts are that all three buildings collapsed in freefall time."

I dispute that and so do thousands and thousands of others.

"It is impossible for the buildins to have collapsed of their own accord, particularly as the path was that of the greatest resistance"

The damage and fires helped out. Do I have to show this video again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFHEoiUZ7o

Please watch the video of buildings destroying themselves through the "path of greatest resistance".

Posted by: angrysoba at January 28, 2010 7:55 AM

The comments are signed at the end. Not at the beginning. And please notice what the video I linked to was of.

 

[angrysoba]

You should explain what Richard Gage is demonstrating in the picture. Can you do that ?

Yes, he's demonstrating that a cardboard box can't crush down another one as fast as yet another cardboard box can drop to the floor.

Or something like that.

(He's actually demonstrating the fact that he's a bit of a clown but no matter).

 

[bill smith]

Avalanches.

A skier (mass: 75kg) can trigger an Avalanche that destroys trees, vehicles and even villages.

So the top 1% of a snowy slope can crush the 99% of lower and stonger structures. By gravity alone.

I'm writing all this down Oystein.please continue.

 

[bill smith]

Bill: Your dodging (and the readers see it).

Do you think that the top "block" did not pick up any mass from the bottom "block"?

This is a very simple question. Answer truthfully and you might start to understand why the collapse progressed as seen. (If you really care to)

Remember this post ?

'' If 10% of an item can crush the lower and stronger 90% of the same structure by gravity alone then you will surely be able to show the readers other examples of this happening. Choose any example from the recorded history of this planet ''

I don't mind whether your example shows the top 10% picking up material or not.

 

[Bell]

Remember this post ?

'' If 10% of an item can crush the lower and stronger 90% of the same structure by gravity alone then you will surely be able to show the readers other examples of this happening. Choose any example from the recorded history of this planet ''

I don't mind whether your example shows the top 10% picking up material or not.

Did you read my previous posts?

 

[The Big Dog]

The comments are signed at the end. Not at the beginning. And please notice what the video I linked to was of.

Wow... that site is odd... a line, your name, somebody else's post, another line..... weird.

 

[bill smith]

Yes, he's demonstrating that a cardboard box can't crush down another one as fast as yet another cardboard box can drop to the floor.

Or something like that.

(He's actually demonstrating the fact that he's a bit of a clown but no matter).

Thank you. Not a bad explanation. So Raders you can see the point....the top 10% CANNOT crush the lower 90% at all let aone as quickly as the unimpeded block hits the table. On 9/11 we are supposed to believe that the small block crushed the large block almost as quickly as the seperate small block hits the table by falling through the fresh air.