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Split Thread A second impeachment

Why do people foist easily debunkable bs like this?

Because the know the time we take discussing is will waste time.

"Being wrong all the time about everything, to the point that correcting you enough would just get us back on topic would take too long" is an amazingly effective troll technique.

Like I've said for years as the trolls have moved more and more to meta-argument trolling, if someone says "2+2=5" you correct their math. If someone says "A potato is a fruit" you correct their definition. If someone says "2+2=a potato" they've successfully broken discourse.
 
I've even seen lawyers making that same mistake, with the "oh the speech wasn't so bad" claim. Folks like Popehat and Legal Eagle.

They don't respond when I ask why they are restricting their analysis to only that speech.

"The election was stolen, we need to fight it, everyone is traitors and we need to do something about it, so let's march on the Capitol. Oh, and be peaceful."

Right. As I have pointed out, there is a reason they came prepared with weapons, bombs, zip tie handcuffs and riot gear. And it wasn't because they were planning a sit-in on the Mall.

What was that reason? Ask them...they'll tell you. "The President sent me."
I like to think that the encouragement Trump offered the nutjobs in Michigan, aka the Wolverine Watchmen, would be admissible.
 
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise.

(letter in link)

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1350836851259682817

We'll have to remember that if the good Mr Graham gets ghetto raped by a bunch of guys wearing dead raccoons, that he wouldn't want them prosecuted when caught. Healing, you see.
 
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise.

(letter in link)

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1350836851259682817


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https://twitter.com/LorcaDamon/status/1348243571992834049
 
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise.

(letter in link)

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1350836851259682817

What does healing even mean here? Placating the lunatic fringe who cheered on the attack on the capitol? Agreeing with all the trumpista morons who think the election was stolen that maybe they have a point?
 
I've seen Trump's speech and I have read it. In my opinion, especially considering the context, it was an incitement to violence. The speech itself, despite it being a disaster has oratory, is actually fairly but not convincingly ambiguous. It contains a great many words and phrases designed to rile people up and make them angry and then it has what amount to token phrases and words about being peaceful. It is very much a wink, wink hint, hint sort of speech. What Trump was trying to do was preserve plausible deniability by mundane phrases and words about being "peaceful" while wink, wink, hint, hinting about violence.

The peaceful crap was mere pro forma to preserve plausible deniability which the audience quite properly disregarded has what Trump really wanted to happen. Trump and his acolytes in the media are using that to throw rioters under the bus and deny Trump responsibility.

Oh and Trump's behavior while the mob was storming the capital and the very long delay in getting help to save Congressmen and Senators etc., from assault and possible death is the clearest indication that what happened is exactly what he wanted to happen. There are also indications that Trump appointees and others deliberately weakened efforts to provide security before the attack. To me it looks very much like Trump was indeed trying to incite an attack.
It's a classic movie mobster speech: Nice Capitol you got there. It would be a shame if a crowd of righteous patriots overran it to reverse imaginary grievances...
 
"Being wrong all the time about everything, to the point that correcting you enough would just get us back on topic would take too long" is an amazingly effective troll technique.

"And if you don't correct it, it's validating the truth of the BS."
 
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise.

(letter in link)

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1350836851259682817

That's beautiful. The guy who has said that the people who took part in the riot should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law doesn't think that the guy who is accused of inciting the riot should even be put on trial. I'm sure that it will fully heal the nation to see that there really are two types of justice.
 
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise.

(letter in link)

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1350836851259682817

Or...the Senate should immediately vote to convict and bar him from holding Federal office once it is received in the Senate so that justice is not delayed and healing can then begin...after he is prosecuted and convicted for Federal crimes, of course. Wouldn't that be nice?
 
Every time you think Lindsay Graham cannot go any lower in his butt kissing of Trump, he finds a way to surprise you.
 
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise.

(letter in link)

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1350836851259682817

That would be convenient. “Sure my guys committed a bit of a high crime and misdemeanor. Let’s forget all about it and move on. Let’s all be the bigger people in all this.”
 
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise.

(letter in link)

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1350836851259682817

And unbelievably, he appears to finally grow a small pair, but then uses them to call Biden "weak!"

"You talk about unifying the country, if you do not stand up against the impeachment of President Trump after he leaves office, you're an incredibly weak figure in American history," Graham said.
Sen. Graham urges Biden to 'stand down' on 'Scarlet Letter' Trump impeachment

Wow.... just ... wow. What was that you said about using your words against you, scumbag? I didn't realize you meant every word out of your mouth.
 
not that i'd advocate violence of any kind, but lindsey graham needs a good punch to the gut. just one
 
Well, how far are the Republicans willing to go to promote healing? Will they unanimously denounce fraud allegations and enter an agreement in the record that the allegations were completely baseless? Will Ted Cruz et al. stipulate that their calls for delay were an attempt to subvert democracy (and in some cases appeared designed to inflame the mob that rolled through Jan. 6?)

Honestly I don't know why Graham is even bothering. I guess so he can tell Trump he's done everything he can. But really, who the hell cares what Lindsey Graham says? What does he have to offer anyone?
 
Every time you think Lindsay Graham cannot go any lower in his butt kissing of Trump, he finds a way to surprise you.
The Trump team have something on Graham, surely. And it must be awful for him to be such a pathetic mouthpiece. Does it involve small children? Hamsters and gaffer tape?
 

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