A plan for a better debate with 1inChrist...

RE: Fundies like 1inChrist

1inChrist is debating exactly as he should and complaints ought to cease. Such fundies derive all religious knowledge and belief from their religious texts, the Bible in 1inChrist's case. Unfortunately, when knowledge is required of science or natural history, the Bible remains their primary reference source -sort of like searching a welding textbook for the latest knowledge on dentistry -and the results are predictable and laughable.

You may measure the depth of this supposed devotion to holy texts by noticing how it only applies to non-risk topics like dinosaurs, dragons, burning bushes, and the like. Ah, but when something of true value comes to question, wherein a wrong answer will lead to true pain and loss, see how the religious worm turns! God forbid the thought, but were 1inChrist to stumble and break his leg, do we suppose he would go immediately to an emergency room for scientific medical intervention -or to church? I think the ER, even with all its examples of heathen materialist scientific applications... AND its philosophy for better living and health through effective science... would first receive him.

Only afterward, leg in cast, pain abated, would he convince himself that God willed it all, the break and the treatment. This is how blind bleevers reconcile science and religious belief. Christians in particular have a wonderful catchall/explainall saying that allows 100% reconciliation wherever and whenever scientific fact causes conflict and doubt:

"God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform."

There is no eventuality, no contradiction or conflict, that cannot be explained away by this simple device.
 
Grendel said:
RE: Fundies like 1inChrist

1inChrist is debating exactly as he should and complaints ought to cease. Such fundies derive all religious knowledge and belief from their religious texts, the Bible in 1inChrist's case. Unfortunately, when knowledge is required of science or natural history, the Bible remains their primary reference source -sort of like searching a welding textbook for the latest knowledge on dentistry -and the results are predictable and laughable.

You may measure the depth of this supposed devotion to holy texts by noticing how it only applies to non-risk topics like dinosaurs, dragons, burning bushes, and the like. Ah, but when something of true value comes to question, wherein a wrong answer will lead to true pain and loss, see how the religious worm turns! God forbid the thought, but were 1inChrist to stumble and break his leg, do we suppose he would go immediately to an emergency room for scientific medical intervention -or to church? I think the ER, even with all its examples of heathen materialist scientific applications... AND its philosophy for better living and health through effective science... would first receive him.

Only afterward, leg in cast, pain abated, would he convince himself that God willed it all, the break and the treatment. This is how blind bleevers reconcile science and religious belief. Christians in particular have a wonderful catchall/explainall saying that allows 100% reconciliation wherever and whenever scientific fact causes conflict and doubt:

"God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform."

There is no eventuality, no contradiction or conflict, that cannot be explained away by this simple device.
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That pretty much sums up the logic used by someone who assumes the bible to be the word of god .And of course who would question the word of god?
On the topic of the fossil record,a couple of years ago I attended a creationist/evolutionist debate at a local university.I think the creationists' name was wilkinson.the evolutionist was a local chap that grew up in a fundimentalist home.upon studying palientology at university he could not reconcile evidence he was seeing with things he had been brought up to believe.He now works at a museum in western canada and truly has a passion for "old bones".He said that the only way that he could scientificly explain the fossil record and the global flood was that different life forms lived at different levels under the earths surface,with the simplest forms being the furthest down.These different levels would be sepparated by pillars of salt that would dissolve when this flood occured.
Unfortunatly the debate went its' predictable way with the creationist raising more points of doubt than could be adressed in a week,not answering questions and associating evolutionary theory with family breakdown and general evil in the world.Generally people came out with the same assumtions as when they went in.observing people was more interesting than the debate itself.
 
Nova's Origins was on last night. The show went through the creation of the solar system and the earth. Excellent. The evidence behind it was demonstrated clearly. I kept noting the parts where fundies would probably be screaming at their TV sets in disagreement.
 
Ipecac said:
Nova's Origins was on last night. The show went through the creation of the solar system and the earth. Excellent. The evidence behind it was demonstrated clearly. I kept noting the parts where fundies would probably be screaming at their TV sets in disagreement.
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I wanted to watch that last night, but the bad weather knocked out power! A sign from God for sure!
 
I was going to make a post suggesting folks watch "Origins". I got about a half-hour/fourty-five minutes in before my exhaustion took over and I passed out in the recliner.

I did find what I got to see incredibly enjoyable and even had some fun shouting out a few "fundie" comments. Although my boyfriend found that after the earth had finished forming, it just wasn't as interesting for him.

There are going to be more episodes of this, right? And have I missed any?
 
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