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A Hampton Court Ghost

I think Kings is merely saying that one should keep an opened mind. I also believe that one should not form a conclusion until the evidence is examined. Unfortunately, it's up to those making the claims to provide that evidene--hehe
I don't see any proof that ghosts exist--all we have is a photo--
it's funny, the ghost is in a Henry the VIII pose that one might see in a movie--he forcefully opens or closes the doors dramatically with both arms.
The article mentions a CCTV video---has anyone seen it?-it might shed new light on the situation.
Wow--just think-if it could be proven that this incident is genunine, the probability that life after death exists would be high. So let's see some real proof.
 
Someone should check the visitation records from the past several months. Perhaps (maybe because of Wiseman's critical study), fewer people have been visiting, and someone thought this would help generate more business. A check on visitation numbers might reveal a potential motive for fraud.
 
De_Bunk said:
!Xx+-Rational-+xX!...

You are such a woowoo kookball believer..it ain't real...

Seriously..how long did you think you could carry on posting, like you do...and people not realise...

All you are doing is pathetically trying to make fun of members here...and the quicker people realise that fact..the better...

Get back to the John Edward board...or Shadowlands board...

You might be foolin' the slower minded here...but not me..

You are nothing but a Kook believer, who thinks he has found a new angle of attack...

Think you're smart...

Nah...obviously not...

DB

( and please...as im sure you know...i couldnt give a ◊◊◊◊...so don't even bother...)
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Damn kook lover it's obvious that you don't give a flying f*ck about science because you get so offended when people are hard on quacks! Rational is a skeptic trying to protect science from nonsense not a delusional believers such as yourself!
 
I note how the "ghost" shuts each door individually, in a suspicious attempt, in my opinion, to make sure it is seen on camera.
 
It looks like a guy in a Halloween costume
Notice he's pulling one of the bars (that was surely installed after the 1500's) to shut the door---probably a Halloween prank--
Why is the camera moving at different angles?
 
Lothian said:
Richard Wiseman is a parapsychologist (and Skeptic) who conducts many popular experiments. Although appealing to the masses the experiments are well done and to date have confirmed no supernatural activity. I suspect his comments are taken out of context along the lines of 'If you could turn that tree upside down by the power of thought alone, It could be the best paranormal event ever,' he said. 'I haven't seen anything that would match that at all
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I read a more complete account of Wiseman's comments. In the quotes I rwad he said that it was one of the best apparitions he's seen. That doesn't mean its a ghost or anything paranormal, it just means its an image.

He was then quoted as saying that he doesn't believe in ghosts.
 
Considering the ghost has no physical body, he sure opens and closes doors with no problem---and he can use the modern door handle at that. So, it take it then that bodiless spirits can appear and manipulate pyhsical objects. Interesting---I wonder how many deceased maids are wandering around looking for something to do. My house could use a good cleaning--I wonder what she would accept as payment.
 
CFLarsen said:


Thanks for the link.

Excuse me, but doesn't this footage come from a CCTV?

Since when are CCTV's handheld?

Me Smell Big Stinking Skunk. Dead, But Not In Spirit.
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LOL! A wobbly CCTV camera. :D

Maybe poltergeist activity is shaking it around. ;)
 
Teetop said:
Considering the ghost has no physical body, he sure opens and closes doors with no problem---and he can use the modern door handle at that. So, it take it then that bodiless spirits can appear and manipulate pyhsical objects. Interesting---I wonder how many deceased maids are wandering around looking for something to do. My house could use a good cleaning--I wonder what she would accept as payment.
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Like they said about the alien in the movie Predator: "If it bleeds, we can kill it."

In this case, if the ghost can touch a metal and wooden door, then we can hit the ghost with metal and wood. :cool:

Someone should take a baseball bat and go knock the ectoplasm out of it! :D
 
If one were to hit it with a baseball bat, what one would see coming out surely wouldn't be ectoplasm:hit:
 
(Bumping of normal, sane thread to help against the newest annoying juvenile attempt at taking over the forum)
 
I dont think this is a shaky camera at all. Stationery surveillnce cameras are set sometimes to run at slower speeds, such as 1 or 10 frames per second, and tend to give this appearance. Just my two cents. Surely an expert here can shed further light on this.
 
Many moons ago I stumbled across: www.haunteddiary.com

The Haunted Diary is an intellectual gathering of people who hang out on a website to look at two cheap web-cams set up in 'authentic' haunted houses. They then spend all of their free time posting screen captures of blurry, artifacted, webshots and acting like a bunch of crazy people.

So inspired, I came to the decision that:

This was too good for me to pass up.

http://www.haunteddiary.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000045

My thought was: fake a picture with a very obvious chunk of something ghostly in the foreground and make everyone focus on that. The only other pictures that were up on the site at that point were so boring I would be sure to cause a commotion. In the background (behind the door) I would sneak in a very faint inverted face. Drum up the interest, and then while I've got everybody's attention I would have another friend (different IP address) point out the face and we'd play it by ear from there.

It opened up beautifully. Not even a half hour into it one of the board regulars noticed the face behind the door and they all went crazy.

My final mistake however was not taking my time with the pics. I did them in literally about 15 minutes and posted them as quickly as possible so there would be little time between the time on the capture and the post.
 
SteveGrenard said:
I dont think this is a shaky camera at all. Stationery surveillnce cameras are set sometimes to run at slower speeds, such as 1 or 10 frames per second, and tend to give this appearance. Just my two cents. Surely an expert here can shed further light on this.
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Male bovine manure, Steve. We don't need an "expert" to see that the camera moves.

It moves, Steve. A CCTV? It doesn't pan, it is shaky. Just as if it was handheld.
 
They can be set to pan, automatically or manually. Check out Pelco's website for a remote panning black box for such sureveillance cameras. They can augomatically or manually be remotely zoomed in/zoomed out as well. And they can be set at time lapse as indicated above. They are by no means stationery, fixed units.

or here:


http://www.cctvhardware.com/products.html

or the source:


http://www.pelco.com/products/controlsite/controls/direct.aspx

MPT24DT/MPT115DT
Pan/Tilt Functions


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• 8-Position Joystick Control for a Single Pan/Tilt
• Manual or Auto/Random Scan Models Available
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Product Specification Sheet (174 KB PDF)
Installation/Operation Manual (87 KB PDF)
MPT24DT A&E Specifications (15 KB RTF)
MPTA24DT A&E Specifications (16 KB RTF)
MPT115DT A&E Specifications (15 KB RTF)
MPTA115DT A&E Specifications (16 KB RTF)
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MPTAZ Series
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• Capable of Auto/Random Scan Operation

Documents
Product Specification Sheet (172 KB PDF)
Installation/Operation Manual (114 KB PDF)
MPTAZ24DT A&E Specifications (15 KB RTF)
MPTAZ24DT/220 A&E Specifications (15 KB RTF)
MPTAZ115DT A&E Specifications (14 KB RTF)
MPTAZ220DT A&E Specifications (15 KB RTF)
DWG CAD Drawings (84 KB ZIP)
DXF CAD Drawings (63 KB ZIP)
 
A pan would mean that there's a focal point that the camera spins on. If it's double axis that would mean that there's a focal point that both planes met on. That string of pictures has no such point, just as if it were someone in a window taking pictures with a handheld camera.
 
Darwin'sGoat said:
A pan would mean that there's a focal point that the camera spins on. If it's double axis that would mean that there's a focal point that both planes met on. That string of pictures has no such point, just as if it were someone in a window taking pictures with a handheld camera.
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Definitely on a double axis. But you fail to note that I specify above such units can be set to pan and tilt, which would give you both. They also can automatically zoom in and out. This can also be done manually by an operator back at the control panel watching this on the monitor
being fed the signal from this camera and if the guy was awake I think he would've been doing exactly that.
 
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