A Fifth Dimension?

[kuroyume0161]

There are fractional dimensions for fractals. Maybe Iacchus' thinking exists as a Cantor set (with dimension log2/log3 ~= 0.6309).

 

[Iacchus]

It is opposing pairs of concepts dealing with the mind. To apply it to spatial concepts is inappropriate as it causes confusion. That is unless you can demonstrate a link or correlation. What is that correlation? Saying there is one and winking your eye is not sufficient. Again it seems like intentional confusion.

Well, what exactly does the mind interpret but these first four dimensions? If so, then there should be an inter-dimensional relationship within the mind. If this is so, then we have to ask, what aspect of the mind eixsts to allow it to consider the first four, if not the fifth? This may in fact have been where Jung came up with idea, I don't know. But, it does make sense.

Your talking gorganzola when its clearly brie time, baby!

 

[Iacchus]

but, I think that from what we've experienced, Circular is the first dimension, as it does seem to be his basis of all arguments.

And by circular, do you mean within the realm of experience?

 

[uruk]

Well, what exactly does the mind interpret but these first four dimensions? If so, then there should be an inter-dimensional relationship within the mind. If this is so, then we have to ask, what aspect of the mind eixsts to allow it to consider the first four, if not the fifth? This may in fact have been where Jung came up with idea, I don't know. But, it does make sense.

Careful swinging them words around. If your not using them properly you might hurt yourself. I'm sure it makes sense to you when you use definitions so loosley and interchangably.

Exactly!!!

 

[Taffer]

High, Depth, Width, Time. These are dimensions, Iacchus. Not "aliens from the 5th dimension".

 

[Iacchus]

Careful swinging them words around. If your not using them properly you might hurt yourself. I'm sure it makes sense to you when you use definitions so loosley and interchangably.


Exactly!!!

So, what exactly is it that tells us about the first four dimensions anyway? Ever hear the expression, "It's all in you mind?"

 

[uruk]

So, what exactly is it that tells us about the first four dimensions anyway? Ever hear the expression, "It's all in you mind?"

Something has to be responsible for putting information of "dimensions" into your mind in the first place. In other words there has to be something for us to call "dimensions" before we call it "dimensions".

And please keep your mouth closed. It's rude to air your tonsels in public.

 

[Iacchus]

Oops!

 

[Iacchus]

So, what exactly is it that tells us about the first four dimensions anyway? Ever hear the expression, "It's all in you mind?"

Also, consciousness (5), since it is a higher dimension, and exists within the volume of time and space, suggests that it also exists outside of time and space ... and, that in fact it has always existed.

 

[Taffer]

Also, consciousness (5), since it is a higher dimension, and exists within the volume of time and space, suggests that it also exists outside of time and space ... and, that in fact it has always existed.

Only because you don't understand what dimensions are, Iacchus. Please read my post above.

 

[uruk]

Also, consciousness (5), since it is a higher dimension, and exists within the volume of time and space, suggests that it also exists outside of time and space ... and, that in fact it has always existed.

Gorganzola?

 

[.13.]

This explain's a lot. Iacchus' thinking is no more than one dimensional. It never branches. It never rises above the plain.

Um... is there such a thing as half a dimension?

You tripped on your dimensions there . Planes are 2 dimensional and lines are 1 dimensional.

 

[Tricky]

You tripped on your dimensions there . Planes are 2 dimensional and lines are 1 dimensional.

So, let's see. A line divided by a plane is half a dimension, right?

(And I'm really disappointed nobody acknowledged the plane/plain pun. Why do I even bother to try to amuse you guys.)

 

[.13.]

(And I'm really disappointed nobody acknowledged the plane/plain pun. Why do I even bother to try to amuse you guys.)

Oh, I thought it was just a typo. You should dumb it down a bit. To suit your audience .

 

[Iacchus]

Only because you don't understand what dimensions are, Iacchus. Please read my post above.

You wouldn't be willing to assess that consciousness exists on an entirely different "plane" than time and space? If not, then how is it able to detach itself from and, perceive that these other dimensions exist? If it existed as a dimension, it would have to exist as a higher dimension wouldn't it?

 

[kmortis]

You wouldn't be willing to assess that consciousness exists an entirely different "plane" than time and space? If not, then how is it able to detach itself from and, perceive that these other dimensions exist? If it existed as a dimension, it would have to exist as a higher dimension wouldn't it?

Except that consciousness definatly demonstrates characteristics of being time-bound.

 

[Iacchus]

Except that consciousness definatly demonstrates characteristics of being time-bound.

Only to the extent that it is more closely related to time. This is where the notion of intuition (as mentioned earlier) comes from by the way. Also, the only thing that we genuinely experience in relation to time is "the moment" ... i.e., the past doesn't exist in that sense, neither does the future.

 

[kmortis]

Only to the extent that it is more closely related to time. This is where the notion of intuition (as mentioned earlier) comes from by the way. Also, the only thing that we genuinely experience in relation to time is "the moment" ... i.e., the past doesn't exist in that sense, neither does the future.

Intuition is a form of inductive thinking. It is very fallable. Just because you are not always aware of the process of thinking, doesn't mean you don't go through it.

 

[Iacchus]

Something has to be responsible for putting information of "dimensions" into your mind in the first place. In other words there has to be something for us to call "dimensions" before we call it "dimensions".

And please keep your mouth closed. It's rude to air your tonsels in public.

Yes, I agee. Something had to exist, before we did.

 

[Iacchus]

Intuition is a form of inductive thinking. It is very fallable. Just because you are not always aware of the process of thinking, doesn't mean you don't go through it.

Intuition is very much like the doppler effect. That does not mean it's not possible to misconstrue what it is telling us though. Or, it is quite possible (according to Jung) that some of us don't have a fully developed sense of intuition. Which is the whole point, since intuition (4) only helps to serve, what we understand (5).