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A Dishonest Quoting by Killtown

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There are also public records about the ownership of the property, and ******* posted in various places on the internet about his ownership of the property and his fledgling business that seeks to flip properties in New Orleans after the catastrophe of Hurricane Katrina.


It looks like he's trying to capitalize on the suffering of victims of Hurricane Katrina just like he does on the suffering of victims of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

I don't think there are any violations of the rules here by pointing out that he currently owns the property in question and that he's actively marketing it on the internet, or that he operates the 911review conspiracy site, or that he claims to have been an RF engineer, or that he told a newspaper that he was taken in by an internet scam promising him $250-$500 per week to work from home as a "third party tracer", or that he told the newspaper that he'd suffered a back injury and was thus unable to work... etc. etc.
 
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so...he's just another schiester...looking to make a quick buck, no matter who he steps on in the process.

No, its good that all of this is on "public record" as people who want to hire him or buy/deal with him can easily find what a jerk he is.
 
A W Smith said:
cant be his, it doesnt appear to have basement windows.
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Houses in south Louisiana don't usually have basements. The water table is too close to the surface.

Consider that most of New Orleans is below sea level, and you'll understand why there are no basements.

Killtown probably just uses his bedroom as a lair.


MortFurd ( a "Damned Yankee" born in Shreveport, (north) Louisiana.)
 
chipmunk stew said:
911review.org hosts Killtown's stuff, but Killtown doesn't own it AFAIK.
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this is a point i've brought up above. i remember a test case recently, i'm not sure if it was UK or the US, whereby the ruling was that the website publishers were held responsible for the content of what was published. the publishers could not derogate the responsibility of that, i think they were deemed to be complicit in that they refused to take down the libel and were forced to do so. i'm sorry to be so vague but i will try and hunt more details down and get back with it.
val M would, i believe, definitely have a case. killtwats stuff seems fallacious, unjustified and malicious. it's unforgiveable the way he has attacked the womans character.
it's about time he was taught a lesson.

BV
 
chipmunk stew said:
Here's a pretty good primer on libel law in the US:
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/press/press08.htm
This phrase in particular jumped out at me:

it is almost impossible for a writer to be found guilty of libel if the writing deals with opinions rather than facts.
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The general truth of the matter is that US libel laws tend to favor free speech, that winning an internet libel case is notoriously difficult, and that people who successfully sue for libel in the US are generally rich, patient, and have a clear-cut case.
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Ah, but in my Media Law and Ethics class it was stressed several times that you also cannot state a fact and claim it is your opinion, and use that to get out of a libel action. It won't work.

In addition to what you said, and very well, it is frankly hard to win any libel suit, at least under U.S. law, because one of the things you must prove is harm. You must prove the libel did demonstrable harm to your reputation.

If no one Lisa knows is buying anything KT is saying, and if it's not causing harm to her business reputation, or driving her friends away, she doesn't really have a case.
 
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slingblade said:
Ah, but in my Media Law and Ethics class it was stressed several times that you also cannot state a fact and claim it is your opinion, and use that to get out of a libel action. It won't work.
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in vals trade i would think it would be worrying to have her name plastered all over the internet being portrayed as a fraud and swindler as killtwat is doing. lot's of customers check out the reps of businesspeople with google etc. the poisonous lies killtwat has written could be very damaging to her in that sense.

it's a pity that val doesn't live in the UK our laws, although having the same general basis as the US, seem more weighted to the complainant over here.

here's a simple outline of the UK libel laws

also a few internet test cases from the UK and Australia there.

hope for val yet

BV
 
killtown lives in portland. he is either a blonde girl that had a public slanging match with dylan avery and phil jayhan,

her name is jennifer [i have the rest and more]

or it is someone living at that address.

her ex[?] husband

michael is a public prosecuter.



genghis@westnet.com.au
 
Lurker said:
I don't know how troothers can do this. I mean, deep down inside do they know they resort to lies to "prove" their case?
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I think they use compartmentalization. They justify bending the truth because their cause is so important and just.

They never realize that their entire cause consists of a twisted tangle of bent and/or broken truths.
 
genghis6199 said:
killtown lives in portland. he is either a blonde girl that had a public slanging match with dylan avery and phil jayhan,

her name is jennifer [i have the rest and more]
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There was a poster who went by "Jennifer" at the old LC Forum, who repeated a lot of Killtown's ideas. However, I asked and there were good reasons to think Jennifer was not Killtown (I don't recall what they were). Also, I don't have any info that the Jennifer poster is as she appeared in her avatar at LCF, nor even that Jennifer was actually a she.

It's against the rules here to "out" someone's real-life identity, even for Killtown. However, it's fair game to try to figure out whether Jennifer was really the same poster as Killtown. Why do you think they're the same or closely related?
 
Holy Resurrection Batman!

Anyway, Killtown quoting people dishonestly? Welcome to the club. We have T-shirts :D.
 
genghis6199 said:
killtown lives in portland. he is either a blonde girl that had a public slanging match with dylan avery and phil jayhan,

her name is jennifer [i have the rest and more]

or it is someone living at that address.

her ex[?] husband

michael is a public prosecuter.
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Jennifer? KT sounds like a dude to me in this phone call with Dylan Avery.

It must be heard to be believed - Dylan goes off on the petulant Master Killtown in this audio clip....

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83888
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CurtC said:
There was a poster who went by "Jennifer" at the old LC Forum, who repeated a lot of Killtown's ideas. However, I asked and there were good reasons to think Jennifer was not Killtown (I don't recall what they were). Also, I don't have any info that the Jennifer poster is as she appeared in her avatar at LCF, nor even that Jennifer was actually a she.

It's against the rules here to "out" someone's real-life identity, even for Killtown. However, it's fair game to try to figure out whether Jennifer was really the same poster as Killtown. Why do you think they're the same or closely related?
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I know "jennifer" is not Killtown. I talk to her on a regular basis.
 
I don't really get it though. He knows he's being dishonest. We know he's being dishonest. What's the point of using this tactic?

What is the point of lying about this stuff? What is wrong with this guy? Who does he think he is fooling?
 
gc051360 said:
I don't really get it though. He knows he's being dishonest. We know he's being dishonest. What's the point of using this tactic?

What is the point of lying about this stuff? What is wrong with this guy? Who does he think he is fooling?
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Gravy once referred to KT as "freakishly stupid", and it really does fit. He once posted an "analysis" of Val M.'s testimony about what she did before and after taking her picture of the smoke from flight 93, which showed he clearly couldn't even follow the flow of a normal conversation. It was almost sad.


I say almost, since it was in service to slandering an innocent woman and perpetuating a pathetic fantasy. If you'd seen someone on the street trying to figure things out the way KT was, you'd give him a quarter and tell him where the soup kitchen is located.
 
genghis6199 said:
killtown lives in <ed. possible personal info deleted>
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Is this the same Ghengis6199 who was claiming on youtube that a film canister is the same as a 140 ton jet airliner and a tree is the same as a 1200 foot, half-million ton skyscraper?

Why the apparent turn on Killtown? Is the bloom off the rose in the old no-planer love nest?
 
Well, to get the facts straight, Killtown is neither Jennifer nor Nico Haupt. And he is a he.
 
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