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A Dishonest Quoting by Killtown

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Just how dishonest can Killtown be? I checked one of his sources after slogging through one of his webpages. Here is Killtown's webpage:

http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html
Killtown said:
and Todd’s wife Lisa says Todd is still alive, but in a “much different scenario.”
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He certainly leads the reader to believe that Lisa Beamer is saying that Todd is still alive, thus lending credence to the no plane crash in Shanksville CTers.

Yet if you use his own source for that quote, CNN, which Killtown linked to:

http://premium.asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0208/23/lkl.00.html

CNN said:
LARRY KING: So you feel Todd is somewhere now?

LISA BEAMER: Absolutely. Todd is still alive. He is alive in a much different scenario than he was last year at this time, but...

KING: Watching you and the babies?

BEAMER: I don't know how much influence he has or knowledge he has of what goes on here. The Bible doesn't give us really a complete picture of the connection between Heaven and Earth. But I do know that he's experiencing the presence of God.

And he is more alive now than he was before. And I'll join him some day.
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Note all the stuff he left out. It is very clear Lisa Beamer is saying her husband Todd is dead but in Heaven. There is no way Killtown could have missed that reference so he purposely left it out of his webpage quote in order to mislead.

I don't know how troothers can do this. I mean, deep down inside do they know they resort to lies to "prove" their case?

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Really, do you expect any better from that crowd? They are pathetic little attention-whores, nothing more. They will lie to your face if it grabs themselves one iota of attention.
 
Killtown, the charmer, from the recently deleted LC thread/meltdown between batmanchester and johndoeXP4T......


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(johndoeXP4T @ Jan 5 2007, 07:35 AM)
Because she is very puzzled about you as well. I spoke to her on the phone. Her website is www.newswithviews.com. She does some excellent work and has been in the movement for over 16 years. I am honored to have her as someone to consult. Just met her a few weeks ago. I would like to talk to KT on the phone as well.. but he is still stuck on that 'weedwacker' thing and doesnt trust anyone to give his phone number to in order to coordinate efforts and/or bury the hatchet.

But.. to each their own i guess.

Cheers!
Rob
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Yeah it was real weird, I used to include her in some courtesy Shanksville update email lists and she wrote back all asking about who I am and nosing in my person business. I replied I just perfered to be anonymous for my safety. She then wrote back all nasty like cause she seemed to not like me being anonymous. I'm mean WTF? What a bitch. Yes, BITCH. Frickin planehugger too. She actually believes a 757 crashed there and made a little hole and blasts me for being anonymous! So much for her credibility. But I can see why you would like person like that.

Why are you so obsessed in hearing my voice??? Creepy.

Yes, the 'weedwacker' incident was very weird, I simply asked you if you were posting as weedwacker at JREF since they seemed to have known it was you and all of a sudden you started VICIOUSLY attacking and insulting me. You would never answer my simple question. Right after your insult fest on me, you confessed over at JREF you were him. Yep, so much for credibility.
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Emphasis added, as if it is needed.
 
I'll go one better: "Cyber-stalker."

I wondered then as I wonder now if his actions aren't, in fact, criminal.
 
Another common Killtown abuse is claiming that "13 people saw a plane before and after the alleged impact".

What he means, of course, is 1 or 2 people claim to have saw it before, and 11 saw it afterwards....

The sophistry is so pure you could bottle it and sell it on store shelves.
 
R.Mackey said:
I'll go one better: "Cyber-stalker."

I wondered then as I wonder now if his actions aren't, in fact, criminal.
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It's unlikely that they're criminal, but I'd be willing to bet that the ghost of Johnny Cochran and a reasonably good lawyer could sue him into the ground for libel and slander. But what would that prove? The Truth movement would get a big boost from the exposure, and Killtown's net worth is probably not more than $400. What's the use?
 
The Almond said:
It's unlikely that they're criminal, but I'd be willing to bet that the ghost of Johnny Cochran and a reasonably good lawyer could sue him into the ground for libel and slander. But what would that prove? The Truth movement would get a big boost from the exposure, and Killtown's net worth is probably not more than $400. What's the use?
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I agree, but I'll compare it to the Dover PA trial. I doubt that did anything to slow down the intelligent design movement, but it sure was a good read :D
 
JonnyFive said:
I don't. I think the experience of Killtown in person would be a deeply unpleasant and frustrating one.
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Unpleasant, frustrating, short, and possibly leading to me being arrested on charges of manslaughter.
 
DavidJames said:
I agree, but I'll compare it to the Dover PA trial. I doubt that did anything to slow down the intelligent design movement, but it sure was a good read :D
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Au contraire, it slowed down the ID movement so much that it's circling the drain now. They seem to be regrouping, putting a different tuxedo on creationism. First they tried "scientific creationism" which was shot down, and they changed the name to "intelligent design" which has now been shot down. It will be interesting to see its form in its next incarnation.

But anyway, the thing that really killed ID is that the Dover school board had to pay the legal fees of the plaintiffs. This fact has already, more than once, dissuaded other school boards from touching ID.
 
The other day on the Loose Change forum he published 2 photos of the Shanksville forest as evidence that the 'fire' didn't happen as a result of the (faked, in his view) crash. The photos were clearly of different parts of the forest.
Similar stuff was spewed on the UK 9/11 forum a while back.

Not having met Killtown over here, I presume now this is all routine carp for him?
 
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