A Cracked article libertarians should read

Children shouldn't work because they'd blow their wages on crap. Do you really want the markets flooded with yet more inane toys? Good god, the commercials are horrible enough now, and they're only expecting the kids to nag their parents. It'd be even worse if kids had real money themselves. So before you allow child labor remember that it leads to the suffering of the most important victim of all, my limited patience for crap. Will nobody not think of the children?
 
ravdin said:
Wait, what? Citation please. Who wants to rely on nothing but consumer reviews for cancer drugs?
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There was a thread on here somewhere...started by either Jonathanquick or KevinQuinno where they advocated for just this thing. They claimed the FDA killed more people than it saved and all we needed was a sort of Consumer Reports on drugs to keep them safe and effective.
 
I would just like to see any evidence that a libertarian society works for large societies.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Children shouldn't work because they'd blow their wages on crap. Do you really want the markets flooded with yet more inane toys? Good god, the commercials are horrible enough now, and they're only expecting the kids to nag their parents. It'd be even worse if kids had real money themselves. So before you allow child labor remember that it leads to the suffering of the most important victim of all, my limited patience for crap. Will nobody not think of the children?
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Two birds with one stone. Allow children into the labor force. However to prevent them from spending their hard earned money on crap tax their income at 100%. Thereby alleviating debt.
 
Travis said:
There was a thread on here somewhere...started by either Jonathanquick or KevinQuinno where they advocated for just this thing. They claimed the FDA killed more people than it saved and all we needed was a sort of Consumer Reports on drugs to keep them safe and effective.
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Consumer Reports is different from something like Yelp, where any random person on the internet can write a review.

(I'm not endorsing the idea of replacing the FDA with a Consumer Reports for drugs though, although it's an interesting idea.)
 
Ziggurat said:
Somalia isn't minarchist, and minarchism isn't anarchism. And a demonstration that anarchism fails is not a demonstration that libertarianism categorically (and non-anarchist forms in particular) fail. To use your apple analogy, it's like arguing that all apples are green because Granny Smith's are green and they're an apple.
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How naive of me to think you might just admit you were mistaken. Should I take it you're still claiming the (false) position that libertarianism requires a government? If you want to say Somalia counts against anarcho-capitalism -- too much of a free-market is a bad thing -- then that's fine. Cling to the belief that the nightwatchman state will reign in unprecedented liberty and prosperity.
 
Travis said:
There was a thread on here somewhere...started by either Jonathanquick or KevinQuinno where they advocated for just this thing. They claimed the FDA killed more people than it saved and all we needed was a sort of Consumer Reports on drugs to keep them safe and effective.
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Citing a thread by an anonymous poster on this forum, that you can't even find, is pretty thin. Sorry, but all you're doing is knocking down your own strawman argument.
 
ravdin said:
Citing a thread by an anonymous poster on this forum, that you can't even find, is pretty thin. Sorry, but all you're doing is knocking down your own strawman argument.
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Actually, I remember this as well.
 
Puppycow said:
A Google search will turn up old black and white photos of children doing both jobs.
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Indeed. I checked before posting.

Kids have the double advantage of being cheap and able to get into small, tight spaces. Kids as young as four would work in hazardous factory conditions. My son is four. The thought makes me a little physically ill when I look at those pictures.

Anyone who advocates the complete deregulation of business is ...misguided, to put it as politely as possible. Uninformed, at the least.
 
ravdin said:
Citing a thread by an anonymous poster on this forum, that you can't even find, is pretty thin. Sorry, but all you're doing is knocking down your own strawman argument.
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It would have been easier if the forum search feature actually allowed you to search for the term "FDA."

Here you go.

Vermonter said:
Actually, I remember this as well.
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Good. It was a doozy of a thread.
 
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I don't know why the accusation of making straw was made. The FDA definitely does NOT fit into the Libertarian philosophy.
 
Travis, FYI, back in the early 20th century the AMA investigated a lot of popular medicines and found that their major ingredients were things like alcohol, cocaine, morphine, etc. Basically they cured nothing, although a few might make you feel better because you were stoned or the morphine killed the pain for awhile. The AMA had to publish the results themselves. Patent medicines were such a huge money-maker for magazines that few if any publishers would risk pissing off their advertisers. Many of the same magazines would happily publish exposes on corruption in politics, child labor, the trusts, etc. But risk offending the people who paid for so many for their ads??! You a crazy man!

Just a little history note that echoes the Cracked article.
 
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Travis said:
There was a thread on here somewhere...started by either Jonathanquick or KevinQuinno where they advocated for just this thing. They claimed the FDA killed more people than it saved and all we needed was a sort of Consumer Reports on drugs to keep them safe and effective.
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Vermonter said:
Actually, I remember this as well.
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So do I. I dunno about the posters Travis mentions - I barely remember either of them all - but I am positive that ShaneK used to make pretty much the same claim. And he used to run for office for the Libertarian Party in... whereever it was he lived.
 
Well I linked to the one thread in post #53. It gets really good around page 6 depending on your display settings.

I don't know about the Shanek ones.
 
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