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A Chick double features

Scot C. Trypal said:


I think the theory is that merely seeing or being geographically near to a homosexual or aware of the fact that they exist and some people don’t gag at the notice of them, I think that does the trick.

So, to make people gay, gays just have to be all gay and stuff. You know, be living and around other humans. :rolleyes:


You left out the toaster.:)
 
Even if we assume that the story is all about homosexual rape - what level of homophobia does it require to insist that the problem is the 'homosexual' part and not the 'rape' part?

The way I see it, Chick has not read what the Bible says about Sodom but has instead bought into some very old propaganda, which hides the rape aspect or any other but homosexuality. (Most of the following comes from my reading of Homosexuality and Civilization by Louis Crompton):

In the Apocrypha, Sodom’s sin is still about pride and inhospitality. In the Pseudepigrapha, Sodom’s sins become more about sexual misconduct, only loosely including homosexuality.

The first work in which Sodom becomes significantly about homosexuality is in Philo’s On Abraham. Here the sin is not much about pride and inhospitality anymore, but about indulgence in food, drink, and sex, which was a result of their wealth (prosperity can cause gayness was the idea). But still, these Sodom men became sex fiends, not homosexuals; men, women, didn’t matter.

Over the years, Christianity latched onto the homosexuality angel of Philo’s take. It seems, Paul in the NT already saw homosexuality as a thing for pagan religions, and Sodom would be a great way for an organized church to use homosexuals as scapegoats. Sodom became the example city.

In the 3rd century Clement of Alexandria still characterized Sodom’s sin as gluttony, in food and sex, but St. John Chrysostom, in the 4th century, and St. Augustine, in The City of God (412 AD), made homosexuality Sodom’s unique sin. Now, the sin wasn’t anything most reasonable folks call immoral today, like rape, or mistreatment of strangers. It wasn’t about crimes people do, as much as it was about having a certain type of person in the city’s midst. Playing on that paranoia was valuable. From here we can find homosexuals being blamed for and punished for everything from a boom in the rat population to Muslim successes on the battlefield, as, of course, God wouldn’t punish an adherent Christian city for nothing.

You left out the toaster. :)

Oh yeah. You also get a free toaster if you join. But remember, it’s a life long commitment; you have to really want the toast. :)
 
I just noticed. In Unloved, the "good" daughter, Nancy, gets married to a rich senator and then calls her parents to let them know about it. Also, I can't help but to notice that after only three years, her kids are awfully big. I wonder if she and the senator "had" to get married. **wink, wink, nudge, nudge**
 
Scot C. Trypal said:
Unloved got me wondering. Does Jack Chick have an older sister and a set of twin nieces?
Based on Chick's view of life, it's more likely that he has a son, daughter, twin granddaughters, and perhaps a bit of guilt.
 
Abdul Alhazred said:
That's easy, if they talk to you, they are trying to make you gay.

Swishy looking guys with insectoid demons are easy to spot. :D
Scot C. TypalI think the theory is that merely seeing or being geographically near to a homosexual or aware of the fact that they exist and some people don’t gag at the notice of them, I think that does the trick.

So, to make people gay, gays just have to be all gay and stuff. You know, be living and around other humans.
Well, obviously the swishiness and the demons and the toasters (?) would give away the gay people who are trying to make Susy gay. I was concerned more with any straight people who might try this. For example, clearly Ms. Henn (I assume she is not gay, because there are no demons, but wait a minute... Ms. Henn? At her age? Don't tell me lesbians don't have demons!) was trying, but then again, she needed to enlist the help of two gay people in her attempt. Perhaps it is not even possible for a straight person to make someone else gay? If so, I will breathe a huge sigh of relief! If not, I hope Jack Chick will do a tract describing some of their techniques so I will know what to look for. Thanks, Jack!
 
The most eerie aspect is the faceless characterizations of god. To me, that looks demonic.

Fordama
 
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My husband tells me that I should read all the threads before responding, but I think I get the gist. It must be a real hoot to paint Christians as idiots who actually believe that there is not only a creator, but that we are answerable to him. Maybe instead of reading Chick so religiously, you could open a bible and see if that 's equally amusing. Of course that would require that you put some stock in the most historically acurate book in existance. By the way, no one has ever found Jesus' body and not for lack of trying.
 
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farmermike said:
It must be a real hoot to paint Christians as idiots who actually believe that there is not only a creator, but that we are answerable to him.
Have you actually read any of Chick's work? There is no need for us to paint him as an idiot.

Further, most of the folks on this board do not believe that all, or even most, Christians are idiots (although, granted, some do).
Maybe instead of reading Chick so religiously, you could open a bible and see if that 's equally amusing.
I think you'd be surprised how many folks on this board actually have read the bible and, probably, know more about biblical history than most Christians.
Of course that would require that you put some stock in the most historically acurate book in existance.
Case in point. (jk) I respect your belief that that is true, but evidence and the book's own history suggests otherwise. Most of the more extrodinary aspects of the bible have little to no corroboration (sp? - "third party back-up")
By the way, no one has ever found Jesus' body and not for lack of trying.
... um, there are a lot of 2000 year old bodies that can't be found. Heck, in modern times, there are some 2 year old bodies that haven't been found. That doesn't really prove anything.


edited to fix spelling and to save Mercutio's poor eyes.
 
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farmermike said:
It must be a real hoot to paint Christians as idiots who actually believe that there is not only a creator, but that we are answerable to him.
Actually it's Chick that is making Christians look like idiots--not people on this board.

Fordama
 
"If anyone tries to make you gay stay away from them!"

Well, I guess we should really stay away from that god guy, huh? He makes people gay! It said so on this T-shirt I saw, once. . .
 
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farmermike said:
It must be a real hoot to paint Christians as idiots who actually believe that there is not only a creator, but that we are answerable to him.

nope. That's not what's happening here, hon. This thread mocks Chick because he's a loon. That's not to say that ALL Christians are loons simply because they are Christians. Its that Chick is a loon for spewing this venomous bigotted sh!te constantly. Hope that helps.
 
Chick's take on homosexuality has always been a bit on the bizarre side. Another of his "tracts" called "The Gay Blade" deals with the fact that gayness is not new. Of course, he pulls the old Sodom and Gomorrah chestnut out (side note: if the residents of Sodom practiced sodomy and hence the word, what, exactly was it that the Gomorrahites did? Is there such a thing as gamorrahy?), but also includes an amusing panel discribing the discovery of a ancient site that depicted homosexual bahaviour on the walls. The archeologists, unlike those godless heathens that dig up dinsaurs, had thier hands over their mouths: "Oh, God, I'm gonna' VOMIT!" and "We can't publish this. It's disgusting!" Also, he informs us that before AIDS, "gays had an average life expectency of 42 years due to violence and venerial disease" but that "AIDS has only reduced that expectency to 39 years" (a "fact" about which he seems truly disappointed). Also, if AIDS research money isn't granted in great enough amounts, all gay men will give blood, thus infecting the blood supply with AIDS ('cause you KNOW they all have it!) and exposing the world to "BLOOD TERRORISM"! Shudder, shudder. . .
 
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Upchurch said:
I respect your belief that that is true, but evidence and the book's own history suggests otherwise. Most of the more extrodinary aspects of the bible have little to no coberation (sp? - "third party back-up")

I believe the word you're looking for is "corroboration". (As well as "extraordinary".)

I agree entirely with Upchurch. Calling a book rife with internal contradictions "the most historically acurate book in existance" shows a certain lack of knowledge of the topic.

farmermike said:
My husband tells me that I should read all the threads before responding

Probably good advice in this case. There is an awesome amount of knowledge on this board about the bible, as has been shown in many of the threads in this forum.
 
JesFine said:
For example, clearly Ms. Henn (I assume she is not gay, because there are no demons, but wait a minute... Ms. Henn? At her age? Don't tell me lesbians don't have demons!)
Of course they have them, they're just not readily visible from the outside. "Fags" have external demonalia, "dykes" have internal demonalia. Did you fall asleep in Sunday School or something?
 
ceo_esq said:
"Fags" have external demonalia, "dykes" have internal demonalia.
Mary Magdalene had "seven demons driven out of her" by Jesus, which supports your internal demon theory. She must have been a raging lesbian to have 7 of those little things.

And Jesus over came those demons. That should say something about the real nature of his "omnipotence"

**wink, wink, nudge, nudge**
 
Fordama said:
The most eerie aspect is the faceless characterizations of god. To me, that looks demonic.

Fordama

Doctor No-Face was a villain in Batman comics back in the early 1960s. Now he's working for Chick playing God Almighty.

A man with no face must earn a living just like the rest of us.
 

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