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They are called silencer in film only afaik, the real name is supressor.
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A bill to reduce gun silencer restrictions
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On TV and movies they reduce the noise to a barely noticeable "thwwwwp". I suppose that is possible, but the thing would have to be enormous. In real life they reduce the sound level by 20 to 30db. That would be a 75 to 85% reduction in apparent volume, though I would guess at the levels experienced by the shooter it would be much less, because the perceptual response vs loudness curve flattens at high volume.
Elind
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Silly question. Either a shooting range, or legal hunting, or remote target location, obviously.
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Aepervius
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You are immediately assuming it will be biased.
but see when something is studied by scientist, they normally always give the protocol. Which can be checked for fairness, validity, checked for negative or positive bias or file drawer effect and various other bias.
What you are asking , having in advance an unbiased result, seems to me to betray that you are not confident of what the result will show. On the contrary.
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Whew, I wish my neighbor when I was growing up had gotten some suppressors for his rifles (especially the Mini-14 - that thing was loud). Guy would shoot a few magazines off his front porch every weekend, plus New Years Eve and 4th of July. Guaranteed our dog would bark for an hour at least.
An excellent guide for guns; legal crap anyway.
https://www.atf.gov/file/11241/download
From;
The Gun Control ACT of 1968
TITLE 18, UNITED STATE CODE, CHAPTER 44
So muffler and silencer are the legal terms. Suppressor as a euphemism for silencers was coined by those who felt (rightly) that it better described what they did and by those who felt the word silencer was given a bad rap by Hollywood, gun owners and other dorks.
If I say silencer everyone knows I'm talking about a gun muffler (or a bike muffler in Europe
). The word suppressor also applies to flash arresters.If the current noise levels of firearms is harmful, maybe OSHA needs to step in. There are several possible solutions:
1) Require hearing protection for anyone and everyone in the area.
2) Make guns less noisy out of the box by some other means than a silencer.
3) Mandate silencers for all guns at all times - make them permanently fixed to the barrel.
1) Require hearing protection for anyone and everyone in the area.
2) Make guns less noisy out of the box by some other means than a silencer.
3) Mandate silencers for all guns at all times - make them permanently fixed to the barrel.
A gun club I belong to west of Seattle was sued in part over noise. I installed noise abatement on one of the rifle line benches. The day after I tested it I was told by the county prosecutor that it was illegal to use noise abatement for guns in WA. The AG said he was wrong.
Some people are just that warped. It would be nice to have the support of the feds. This bill is the first step.
Some people are just that warped.
It would be nice to have the support of the feds. This bill is the first step.Fast Eddie B
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I have two ranges on my 4.4 acres in N GA. Do they pass muster?
As an aside, here's the magazine rack at my local grocery, taken not too long ago:
If you look carefully, you'll find a whole magazine dedicated to suppressors.
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"Backyard Poultry"? Good heavens, I've never seen that sold without an opaque plastic bag over it.
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That's why it's in the second row. The only thing you can read is the name because it's blocked by the much more tasteful magazine in front of it Bead Style.
Holy ******
Not saying you shouldn't continue to use your guns but if they are that unpleasant for you to use perhaps a different hobby? Why not try archery with a crossbow?
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A) Some of us do both.
B) Why should this safety feature be prohibited?
I liken this to the discussions about adding sling mounts to the 'assault weapon' ban in New York. Are there times where a sling makes a weapon more effective in combat? Yes. Is that completely overshadowed by the safety improvements and simply convenience of them? Yes. Or perhaps it's more like a manual safety. Does it let you run 'cocked and locked' so you can deploy for firing faster with less chance of a negligent discharge, and therefor is useful for combat (including hypothetically mass shootings)? Yes. Is there another way to safely carry? Yes, unloaded or at least without one in the chamber. Does that mean it's not a safety feature and not a good idea because then you can do both for layered safety measures if that's what you want? Of course not.
If anything the pro-gun control people should be arguing for requiring mufflers in many cases. The only reasons I can come up with for the continued hostilities to this safety feature is an unreasonable fear.
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The fact that a word isn't a legal term doesn't mean it's a euphemism. Most words have no legal definition. In fact, it's usually the reverse: the law creates euphemisms for things that already exist and may already have their own pre-existing terms.
"Assault weapon" is one such euphemism of the law. It's a term which basically means a semi-automatic rifle with certain cosmetic features, those features being dependent on the particular law in question. It's supposed to sound like "assault rifle", a military term for a class of military weapons.
As for "suppressor", it's not a euphemism at all. It's a far more accurate term than "silencer", since there really isn't any device that actually silences gunfire. There aren't even any suppressors that work anywhere near the level that Hollywood portrays them.
The first video talked about how fun it was to shoot suppressed. It that sufficient reason to shoot suppressed?
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I said euphemism meaning that people were using the word suppressor because it sounded less harsh than the word silencer. The word moderator is also used by some people who want to sound even more benign. Based on what I've seen on this forum and other places, the word silencer can be a dirty one indeed.
When I suppressed my Anschutz 8001 air rifle, it was solely for the purpose of reducing the irritating noise while shooting in the close confines of my garage; it was more comfortable than wearing ear plugs. When other shooters (at practice) asked why my rifle sounded like it had low cylinder pressure, I told them I installed a moderator in the sleeve surrounding the barrel. Since the baffles were legally not silencer parts, I felt using the word moderator was a better fit and more benign.
The first video talked about how fun it was to shoot suppressed. It that sufficient reason to shoot suppressed?
Sure, why not. As long as he's cool with the fact that he uglied up that Henry.