911blogger Hits New Low

I really need to get a sarcasm smilie up here, as I occasionally am so subtle that what I say is misconstrued as serious.

Of course I do not believe in Disinfo agents, but my god if there ever was an argument for them, these guys are it...lol

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
I really need to get a sarcasm smilie up here, as I occasionally am so subtle that what I say is misconstrued as serious.

Of course I do not believe in Disinfo agents, but my god if there ever was an argument for them, these guys are it...lol

TAM:)
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No, I thought you were being sarcastic. The JW question was meant as, she was another perfect fit. The rest was more or less questioning the dis believers. I was the unclear one. I see how that interpretation could appear.
 
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Dear Troofers.

There are always going to be 2 sides to every story, what happened, and what you think happened. In the case of the events of September 11th, you either believe it was a terrorist attack, or you believe the government is behind it. And I don't have a problem with that.

To believe the official version, you are of the understanding that 19 men with a hard on for killing everything resembling America, led by a multi-millionaire who has a bigger hard on for killing everything resembling America, after years of planning, hijacked planes and crashed them into buildings. And I don't have a problem with that.

To believe otherwise, however, you voyage into the realm where anything is possible and could have happened that day: pods, missiles, preplanted explosives, laser beams, nukes, computer generated imagery, remote controlled planes, the NWO, Nazis, you name it, there's probably a theory on it. And I don't have a problem with that, either.

But on a planet with just over 6 billion people on it, it would be only a matter of time before 2 people with 2 totally different ways of thinking were bound to run into each other, be it in person or on the interweb. I know alot of people who don't believe in the same things I do. Those same people believe in alot of things I don't, and that's ok, because I'm not the type of guy to knock anyone for anything they believe. However, I'm afraid I cannot say the same for supposed 9/11 truth seekers, and I have a problem with that.

See, in the great "WTF HAPPENED" debate that's been ongoing since the first window of the WTC was shattered by a commercial jet liner, both armies have come to the battlefield to defend what they say happened. Both sides say they have the facts, the stone cold truth, the evidence, the BE ALL END ALL argument winner. So how do you tell the sides apart if you don't have a scorecard? Easy, you ask for evidence. A skeptic of the 9/11 conspiracy will gladly and quickly respond with heaping amounts of facts that back up their story, eye witness reports, engineers, data sheets, pictures, video... ask a 9/11 Truther to supply evidence, and you might get a picture, a video here and there, but nothing solid. You might also get an e-mail from a faceless EMT who claims he was present during a 20 second countdown. Eventually, you will get a video called Loose Change thrown at you, a video so filled with truth they had to correct it 3 times. Press harder for actually evidence, and the pictures become speculation, the claims become more ludicrous, a truther will start to stammer, call names, accuse you of being a government plant, and avoid questions. Press harder, and the truther will ignore you, as seen in a video on my youtube account concerning Dylan Avery's behavior that suddenly went to a discussion about the WTC. 2 members of the 9/11 movement at the same time confronted me with claims of evidence, proof of an inside job, and called me childish names. When asked for evidence to support their claims, both of them stop replying to me. I'm a patient man, but after 2 days, I'm starting to think they ran from me.

And this makes us SAD, Truthers!! Us skeptics want to know WHY you think what you think, what made you come to this conclusion, what can you PROVE to us to makes it all clear to you? The very least you have shown me is that you have an extended vocabulary and a knack for ad libbing your way through a debate. If you want anyone to take you seriously, start acting serious. And if you cannot back up a claim, truthers, may I suggest that you do NOT change the story to something else you cannot prove?

Respectfully,
Unsecured Coins.
 
9/11 Commission Report, page 9:
At 9:12, Renee May called her mother, Nancy May, in Las Vegas. She said her flight was being hijacked by six individuals who had moved them to the rear of the plane. She asked her mother to alert American Airlines. Nancy May and her husband promptly did so.(56)

At some point between 9:16 and 9:26, Barbara Olson called her husband, Ted Olson, the solicitor general of the United States. She reported that the flight had been hijacked, and the hijackers had knives and box cutters. She further indicated that the hijackers were not aware of her phone call, and that they had put all the passengers in the back of the plane. About a minute into the conversation, the call was cut off. Solicitor General Olson tried unsuccessfully to reach Attorney General John Ashcroft.(57)

Shortly after the first call, Barbara Olson reached her husband again. She reported that the pilot had announced that the flight had been hijacked, and she asked her husband what she should tell the captain to do. Ted Olson asked for her location and she replied that the aircraft was then flying over houses. Another passenger told her they were traveling northeast. The Solicitor General then informed his wife of the two previous hijackings and crashes. She did not display signs of panic and did not indicate any awareness of an impending crash. At that point, the second call was cut off.(58)
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9/11 Commission Report, page 455:
56. FBI report, "American Airlines Airphone Usage," Sept. 20, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Ronald and Nancy May, Sept. 12, 2001.

57.The records available for the phone calls from American 77 do not allow for a determination of which of four "connected calls to unknown numbers" represent the two between Barbara and Ted Olson, although the FBI and DOJ believe that all four represent communications between Barbara Olson and her husband's office (all family members of the Flight 77 passengers and crew were canvassed to see if they had received any phone calls from the hijacked flight, and only Renee May's parents and Ted Olson indicated that they had received such calls).The four calls were at 9:15:34 for 1 minute, 42 seconds; 9:20:15 for 4 minutes, 34 seconds; 9:25:48 for 2 minutes, 34 seconds; and 9:30:56 for 4 minutes, 20 seconds. FBI report, "American Airlines Airphone Usage," Sept. 20, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Theodore Olson, Sept. 11, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Helen Voss, Sept. 14, 2001;AAL response to the Commission's supplemental document request, Jan. 20, 2004.

58. FBI report, "American Airlines Airphone Usage," Sept. 20, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Theodore Olson, Sept. 11, 2001.
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