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911 Truth/Batman connection

aggle-rithm

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While making breakfast this morning, I was thinking about the old '60s television series Batman, with Adam West in the title role. The show was a work of genius, offering two completely different viewing experiences to two different demographics. To the adults, it was a tongue-in-cheek, goofy, campy spoof of the comic-book genre. To us kids, it was deadly serious.

I mean, how cool was Batman when he whipped out a can of Bat Shark Repellent upon being attacked by a shark as he hung from the Batcopter ladder? And talk about smooth...did you see him dance the Batusi? Move over, James Bond!

And, when he refused to rid himself of a deadly-looking bomb, fuse sputtering ominously, because it would endanger a mother duck and its babies, I wept!

In most cases, adults were kind enough not to spoil it for us. "Yes, Batman is very cool," our dads would tell us, chuckling to themselves. I could imagine a kid getting into an argument with his father about whether Batman was a serious TV show or not. The kid would point to a mountain of evidence...there was no laugh track, as there was on "funny" shows. It wasn't taped before a live audience, like I Love Lucy. The Dynamic Duo fought crime, just as the cops did on Mannix and Mod Squad. They faced real, life-and-death situations, like being turned into surfboards or being hypnotized by the Super-Instant Mesmerizer.

But, the adults would counter...just LOOK at it! It's a JOKE!

I'm sure very few such arguments actually happened, because the kids just wouldn't understand the concepts of campiness and parody.

Which brings me to the truth movement...

They have MOUNTAINS of evidence! Operation Northwoods! Thermite traces! "Pull it"! No bodies at Shanksville! Etc., etc.

Whereas most people look at these arguments and say...just LOOK at it! It's a JOKE!

But the truthers don't see that it's a joke.

So, the question is: Why don't we be nice like our parents were, and let the truthers believe what they want to believe?

Answer: Because they're supposed to be adults.
 
Riddle me this Batman ....

What lives in mommy's basement watching videos, marches down the street
chanting "911 was an Inside Job" and posts insane crap all over the
internet....?

PS

Cant wait for new Batman movie with Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle
AKA "CATWOMAN"

MEOW!
 
aggle-rithm said:
And, when he refused to rid himself of a deadly-looking bomb, fuse sputtering ominously, because it would endanger a mother duck and its babies, I wept!
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Which led to one of the greatest lines in movie history:
"Somedays you just can't get rid of a bomb."
 
CompusMentus said:
Another point, wasn't the scene with that shark and the shark repellant from the Batman movie not the TV series?



Compus
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Yeah...so was the bomb scene. But it was basically a long TV episode with a somewhat larger budget that played in theaters.
 
Interesting OP. I wonder if that idea can somehow be tied into the 9/11-Truth-as-art-criticism idea I've been intermittently pursuing.

However, there's one big difference: the Adam West Batman shows (and movie) were created by adults, who presumably were themselves aware of, and who in fact deliberately designed, both viewing perspectives. To be more analogous to the Truth Movement, the show would have had to be written and directed by children in the target age group, who intended only serious crime-fighting action adventure, and only wound up with the campy humor inadvertently.

Unless the entire Truther canon were in fact cynically created, that is, designed not to be believed except by a certain target belief-prone audience. That's getting into the "Entire Truth Movement Is Disinfo" theory -- which pops up occasionally but is too self-defeating to be accepted by more than a handful of conspiracists.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Myriad said:
Interesting OP. I wonder if that idea can somehow be tied into the 9/11-Truth-as-art-criticism idea I've been intermittently pursuing.

However, there's one big difference: the Adam West Batman shows (and movie) were created by adults, who presumably were themselves aware of, and who in fact deliberately designed, both viewing perspectives. To be more analogous to the Truth Movement, the show would have had to be written and directed by children in the target age group, who intended only serious crime-fighting action adventure, and only wound up with the campy humor inadvertently.

Unless the entire Truther canon were in fact cynically created, that is, designed not to be believed except by a certain target belief-prone audience. That's getting into the "Entire Truth Movement Is Disinfo" theory -- which pops up occasionally but is too self-defeating to be accepted by more than a handful of conspiracists.

Respectfully,
Myriad
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Hmmm...

Could it be that Batman was IRONICALLY campy?
 
Let's see....A guy with a mask (Nico Haupt?) check
Sound effects....clunkity, clunkity, clunkity...check
Evil villains with whacky names...Bedunker, Gravy, some old Pharaoh ...check
Henchmen....shills, sheeple....check
Crazy, overly complicated schemes....Thermite, power downs, flyovers....check

I think I may have just proved that the truth movement IS the old Batman TV show!
Have I missed anything?
 
Wolrab said:
Let's see....A guy with a mask (Nico Haupt?) check
Sound effects....clunkity, clunkity, clunkity...check
Evil villains with whacky names...Bedunker, Gravy, some old Pharaoh ...check
Henchmen....shills, sheeple....check
Crazy, overly complicated schemes....Thermite, power downs, flyovers....check

I think I may have just proved that the truth movement IS the old Batman TV show!
Have I missed anything?
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Batman had better writers
 
A key difference is that Batman swears as his one and only rule that he will never actually kill any opponents, as he believes that the refusal to kill is the only thing that seperates him from the bad guys. Wheraes the Truth Movment is constantly demanding that us debunkers be "hanged" just for disagreeing with them.
 
CompusMentus said:
Another point, wasn't the scene with that shark and the shark repellant from the Batman movie not the TV series?



Compus
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I would've punched my best friend in the face for that sidecar/go-cart.
 
Okay I just saw "Breakfast at Tiffany's" again and like, anytime Holly Golightly encountered someone she couldn't get around, they became a "rat". She had varying degrees of rattihood but everone was one... Wouldna that kinda be like a Twoofer using the fallback "shill"? When cornered, don't we usually hear "Wait, you don't see??? They're all shills for The Gubmint!!!"

But I like the Batman connection, it's good. I forget again, are we the adults or the kids???

Batman came out at the same time as Star Trek, when I was a wee laddie of 9, so yeah - never ever saw the tongue-in-cheekness until I got bigger.
 
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1337m4n said:
A key difference is that Batman swears as his one and only rule that he will never actually kill any opponents, as he believes that the refusal to kill is the only thing that seperates him from the bad guys. Wheraes the Truth Movment is constantly demanding that us debunkers be "hanged" just for disagreeing with them.
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And atleast two Truthers (off the top of my head) HAVE indeed killed people. Dude who killed his father, the name escapes me and I can't be bothered to look it up, and the more recent Jared Laughner (although zeitgeist has tried to pull away from the truth movement to focus on the big bad Fed).
 
Oz1976 said:
And atleast two Truthers (off the top of my head) HAVE indeed killed people. Dude who killed his father, the name escapes me and I can't be bothered to look it up, and the more recent Jared Laughner (although zeitgeist has tried to pull away from the truth movement to focus on the big bad Fed).
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That was Sean Fitzgerald.

There's also Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn.
 
Redtail said:
I would've punched my best friend in the face for that sidecar/go-cart.
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Properly called the "Batbike" (I think).

And I vaguely remember things being dustified (TM Dr Judy Wood) Perhaps the Batman/9-11 connections go deeper than we ever imagined.

Hmmmmmmmmm


Compus
 
Thinking about it a little more.....

Dr Wood could be the inspiration for a crackingly evil new villian.

I introduce you to Doctor Dust! (played by Meryl Streep no less)

Protected by several menacingly clawed but sexy (and scantily-clad) underlings known as "Haarpies", who would gouge out the genitals of those who even dared to view her monstrous face, she smites her enemies by strumming gently on her golden instrument bringing forth a mighty seawind which bombards her target with millions of invisible, billiard ball-sized nuclear bomblets pulverizing everything in their path into total obscurity.

.....or am I thinking about it a little too much :=]


Compus
 
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CompusMentus said:
Thinking about it a little more.....

Dr Wood could be the inspiration for a crackingly evil new villian.

I introduce you to Doctor Dust! (played by Meryl Streep no less)

Protected by several menacingly clawed but sexy (and scantily-clad) underlings known as "Haarpies", who would gouge out the genitals of those who even dared to view her monstrous face, she smites her enemies by strumming gently on her golden instrument bringing forth a mighty seawind which bombards her target with millions of invisible, billiard ball-sized nuclear bomblets pulverizing everything in their path into total obscurity.

.....or am I thinking about it a little too much :=]


Compus
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Dude, take your meds! ;)
 
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