911: The chain of evidence

[Belz...]

You are doing precisely the same thing. Just because every single question is not answered in the reports you are not willing to accept that the preponderance of evidence supports it. You provide no reasonable support for the outlandship 9/11 conspiracies and insist on being shown more and more evidence. It doesn't matter how much evidence they give you, you will just keep asking for more without ever giving any reason why anyone should believe the claims of the 9/11 CTers. We just get questions and no answers. .

I'd like to have one of those!!!

 

[Hellbound]

I'd like to have one of those!!!

Belz...:

Didn't you get this week's Globalist Ninja quarterly?

Your team should have both an outlandship and an inlandship in the appropriate Globalist Conspiracy Hanger nearest you.

Of course, only the French Poodle on your team is authorized to drive, per regulation 1,567 section 4 subsection 18 paragraph B, lines 14 through 16:

"Outland- and Inland- ships, persuant to applicible Globalist policy, all require appropriate licensing for operation. The licensing procedure can be obtained by taking a current Pizza Hut Menu, cutting it into a string of three paper dolls (not, two, not four, and five is right out), and mailing it to a random "Smith" address found in the South Hampton phone book. Canines are exempt from this licensing policy."

 

[Gravy]

IWhere is Gravys debunk of the Report?

The government pays me to harrass the Loosers. If you'll pay me more, I'll gladly write up any kind of report you want on the 9/11 Commission's findings. It will cost quite a lot, though. The government had a pesky habit of employing conclusions based on facts gathered by thousands of expert investigators, and it will take some effort for me to come up with a convincing debunking. You can PM me for details on where to send the money.

I've asked you a couple of times if you've read the 9/11 Commission's report, and if so, what you think it got wrong. You can give me a big head start with my debunking!

 

[MarkyX]

Hahahaha childlike says she is a skeptic.

A skeptic isn't someone who says "No one can convience me", that's someone with an agenda.

Stop throwing that title around Childlish, it's useless to you.

 

[sackett]

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress :
I want to know why you all take a story that is only backed up by ONE source as the gospel truth.

Because we are STRONG, and it amuses us to toy with weaklings like you.

<cue sardonic laughter>

 

[Moochie]

CE, while I absolutely loathe your present government and all it does, I think you are a raving loony who only exacerbates the dim view non-Americans hold of your great nation.

Thankfully, I happen to know that your silly ideas aren't widely held among your sensible, educated citizenry.

If you're hell bent on conspiracy, look to your own mind. You're a glaring example of where the "American dream" went horribly wrong.

M.

 

[Drysdale]

OK, let me jump in here.

Empress, seems like a lot of the supposed conflict of interest links are via the airlines.

Isnt that kinda self defeating? If all those guys are affiliated with airlines thats even more reason to believe they would'nt do what they did as it killed the airline industry for awhile. I still dont think they've recoverd completely yet.

So what were they to gain if I guess as you're implying they were invloved in the conspiracy. Is that what you're saying?

And yes there probably is ties with Saudi's. If you are an oil investor there's gonna be ties there more than likely. Have you looked to see what ties some of the critics have? Surely you've done that also right?
Guys like Michael Moore do have stocks in oil you know.
Maybe that should be looked into also before you just look for the ones that suit your view eh?

 

[Gravy]

CE, while I absolutely loathe your present government and all it does, I think you are a raving loony who only exacerbates the dim view non-Americans hold of your great nation.

Thankfully, I happen to know that your silly ideas aren't widely held among your sensible, educated citizenry.

If you're hell bent on conspiracy, look to your own mind. You're a glaring example of where the "American dream" went horribly wrong.

M.

I think she may be from your neck of the woods, Moochie. She spoke of a 10-hour time difference between her clock and JREF's.

 

[Pardalis]

With that in mind, I would like someone to prove to me that the Allies won WWII. Without referring to the monolithic source known as "the media," which we all know is controlled by Aliens. By media, I mean newspapers, films, newscasts, photographs, government records, eye-witnesses, and material evidence.

I implore you to keep WW2 out of the discussion, please!

 

[Pardalis]

I did not present a detailed CT and i will continue to refuse presenting one (nice try, delphi_ote). I created this thread to see if you apply the high standards you demand from "the CTs" to your own theories. It's an experiment. You make fun of "the CTs" for believing Loose Change and i make fun of you for believing the Commission Report.

So you're just here to troll. You're even worst thant the CTs. You just doubt everything, regardless of proof.

Of course the Commission uses a mountain of sources but they decided which (parts of the) sources were used, how they were used, what wasn't used and - most important - they narrated the story.

Relevance?

BTW since when do you use Wikipedia?

 

[Stellafane]

Is it just me, or is the "JREF Infiltration" arm of the 9/11 CT movement kind of losing steam? I mean geez, first DJLegacy and now Childlike Empress. At least geggy and the others had some life to them, like they really thought what they were saying meant something. But Childlike just seems to be going through the motions, like she drew the short straw and now it's her turn to post here.

 

[Moochie]

I think she may be from your neck of the woods, Moochie. She spoke of a 10-hour time difference between her clock and JREF's.

Thanks Gravy, I really needed to know that.

Looking back at my post, though, it's a good fit for Australia, with very little alteration.

M.

(Edit to add -- Australia's currently 14 hours ahead of US East Coast and 17 hours ahead of US West Coast. Don't know about a 10-hour difference.)

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Thanks Gravy, I really needed to know that.

Looking back at my post, though, it's a good fit for Australia, with very little alteration.

M.

Ah, think of it this way Moochie; your words still ring true for DJ, Dylan, Jenabell, etc.

 

[R.Mackey]

I did not present a detailed CT and i will continue to refuse presenting one (nice try, delphi_ote). I created this thread to see if you apply the high standards you demand from "the CTs" to your own theories. It's an experiment. You make fun of "the CTs" for believing Loose Change and i make fun of you for believing the Commission Report.

You have grossly mischaracterized our approach. Probably on purpose, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and explain.

It's really quite simple. We take two theories. One is the the "official" story. The other is whatever alternative we're presented with -- note you still refuse to explain your theory, though we've been able to tease out bits and pieces, but you're not helping much.

The two theories don't agree. One of them is, therefore, in error. So we look for sources of the error.

The reason we make so much fun of the Loosers is because the errors are legion, trivial to uncover, and have not been corrected despite being pointed out over and over again.

This is not the way to go. A rational person changes her opinion when faced with verifiable evidence that doesn't agree with her theory. For example, you pointed out a minor error of fact that I made, and I thank you for it -- I learned something, and my own opinion is now stronger for it.

Now, if you want to contribute to this process, find some errors in the 9/11 Commission Report. There probably are a few. But I will be shocked if you can find enough to change the overall conclusion, or even cast it into doubt. Get to work.

As a warmup, the political backgrounds of Commission members is not proof of anything. This is just an elaborate "ad hominem" attack. If their bias led them to make errors, find the errors and we'll listen.

I'm also still waiting for you to explain why you believe Bin Laden was captured and killed in late 2001, and how you know his acceptance of responsibility was a forgery. Let's see -- ahem -- whether you "apply the high standards you demand to your own theories."

 

[Belz...]

Not to mention that the more elaborate the conspiracy, the more people who know about it and therefore have to be trusted to keep it hush. Which would never fly anyways. Conspiracies have to be simple and small. No more than a few people can know.

The only way to have an air-tight conspiracy is for it to contain 2 people only, and have the first guy kill the second guy.

 

[Belz...]

Of course the Commission uses a mountain of sources but they decided which (parts of the) sources were used, how they were used, what wasn't used and - most important - they narrated the story.

So check all those sources, then.

 

[Belz...]

Belz...:

Didn't you get this week's Globalist Ninja quarterly?

Your team should have both an outlandship and an inlandship in the appropriate Globalist Conspiracy Hanger nearest you.

Of course, only the French Poodle on your team is authorized to drive, per regulation 1,567 section 4 subsection 18 paragraph B, lines 14 through 16:

"Outland- and Inland- ships, persuant to applicible Globalist policy, all require appropriate licensing for operation. The licensing procedure can be obtained by taking a current Pizza Hut Menu, cutting it into a string of three paper dolls (not, two, not four, and five is right out), and mailing it to a random "Smith" address found in the South Hampton phone book. Canines are exempt from this licensing policy."

Why are we ALWAYS doing these things so complicated ?

I'll walk, thank you.

 

[c4ts]

Ugh. This is just like Rodney. Hey guys, prove to me that the Egyptians built the pyramids but don't use any simple machines!

 

[Pardalis]

What does all this mean? My impression is that a nexus of financiers, organized crime, "intelligence", polititians and corporations exists which was involved in 9/11 and wants to make us believe the story of the lone highjackers and Osama as evil genius in the background.

Nobody cares about your "impression".

A rogue element in western (and middle eastern) society.

What? What's this sentence? There's no verb, what are you talking about?

They try to play the oldest game in the book and to create a backlash into fear and barbarianism to save their interests - at a moment in history when it's time for humanity to grow up.

That sounds alot like what Al Qaeda is trying to do.

ETA: Do you deny Al Qaeda's existence as well?

 

[Yahzi]

I implore you to keep WW2 out of the discussion, please!

Exactly what I would expect a government stooge to say!

Obviously, 9/11 was just a coverup of the murder of some finanicieers in the Towers who discovered that WWII was faked (so that the governments of the world could raise taxes).

Go ahead, prove me wrong!