911: The chain of evidence

[Ducky]

@Gravy: Chossudovsky is an antifascist and critic of corporate globalisation. I read his books and frequently visit globalresearch.ca. A lot of authors contribute to the site and i never saw anything like holocaust deniing. This is a smear campaign and you are an ********, Sir.

Given that Gravy has provided links to back up his assertions and you are just throwing insults, I would say you lose this round.

Do you have any evidence to refute Gravy's links and assertions?

 

[Gravy]

@Gravy: Chossudovsky is an antifascist and critic of corporate globalisation. I read his books and frequently visit globalresearch.ca. A lot of authors contribute to the site and i never saw anything like holocaust deniing. This is a smear campaign and you are an ********, Sir.

Touched a nerve there, eh?

You're saying the B'nai B'rith claim is false? (eta: Think before answering, Empress. I do my homework.)

Shall we play by your rules, where the burden of proof is on you to show that he's not a Jew-hater?

Seventh time: have you read the Commission report. If so, what did it get wrong?

 

[Ketyk]

Please provide all sources but one - the "9/11 Commission"-Report.

Maybe I am being too persistent, but I'd like an answer to this.

Do you have a source that has a conclusion that is different from the 9/11 Commission Report?
I would really like an answer to that. Please?

 

[Bandersnatch]

I go to the University of Ottawa, but I've not heard of this guy. Then again, Engineering students and Managment students have a bit of a rivalry.

In the mean time while I look him up abit, try here to check out his various writings as listed in the school's website.

ETA: Also, have you read the report?

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Here's his online archive: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060520&articleId=2479

 

[Childlike Empress]

Shall we play by your rules, where the burden of proof is on you to show that he's not a Jew-hater?

He is a jew and a descendent of holocaust victims. The postings were made in the forum of globalresearch.ca. The Story.

Now stop attacking the messenger, Gravy. To answer your question: i've read the commission report.

 

[Stellafane]

@Gravy: Chossudovsky is an antifascist and critic of corporate globalisation. I read his books and frequently visit globalresearch.ca. A lot of authors contribute to the site and i never saw anything like holocaust deniing. This is a smear campaign and you are an ********, Sir.

Aw shucks, here I was thinking that you're basically a naive, misled soul. Instead, I see you've aligned yourself with an advocate of literally the oldest CT in the world ("the Joos did it") who's a lunatic to boot (the U.S. controls the world's weather??).

Unless you come up with some pretty fancy backtracking very quickly, I'm going to be hard pressed not to dismiss you as yet another anti-Semite (or at least a fellow-traveller). "Here to fight fascism," how ironic.

 

[Pardalis]

@Kiwiwriter: Don't dare putting me in a corner with holocaust deniers. I'm here to fight fascism.

Wrong country. Better move to Iran if you want to do that.

 

[Stellafane]

Wrong country. Better move to Iran if you want to do that.

...or better yet, go to the LC forum and fight the fascist tactics of the administrators (until you get banned after two posts).

 

[Pardalis]

...or better yet, go to the LC forum and fight the fascist tactics of the administrators (until you get banned after two posts).

Yeah, her "global mafia" conspiracy won't stand a chance against their holograms and built-in C4.

 

[chipmunk stew]

He is a jew and a descendent of holocaust victims. The postings were made in the forum of globalresearch.ca. The Story.

Now stop attacking the messenger, Gravy.

That's more like it!

Now, apply that same resourcefulness and firm grounding to your counter-arguments against the Commission Report, and we can have a real discussion about 9/11.

 

[Pardalis]

Here's his online archive: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060520&articleId=2479

Oh, this is rich! Some of the headlines:

-The Invasion of Canada
-Indian Ocean Tsunami: The Untold Truth
-Indian Ocean Tsunami Foreknowledge of A Natural Disaster:
-Is America Preparing for Martial Law?

This guy is nuts.

 

[Pardalis]

To formulate a hypothesis we have to have access to the existing facts. We have to know what exactly happened.

Commercial airline jets were highjacked, two of them flew into the World Trade Center towers, another flew into the Pentagon and another crashed in a Pennsylvania field. Let's start with that

 

[pgwenthold]

Please show me the evidence.

What would you accept? Unfortunately, I don't have the video of a couple of the accused going through security referenced in the 911 Commission report, but then, you would just claim that it doesn't actually show them on the plane.

I don't have the tapes of the flight attendant describing the hijackers, even though she said they were middle eastern, with one not able to speak english very well, which is the same description that the counter attendant gave for one of the hijackers. Of course, I haven't talked to her directly. But if that is what you require, then it would mean that I would have to basically go back and re-do the whole 9/11 commission investigation. Is that what you require?

What evidence would you accept to conclude that the accused hijackers were actually on the plane?

FWIW, you realize that even the most ardent JFK conspiracy supporters still accept evidentiary aspects of the Warren report (testimony, pictures (well, with the exception of that one of Oswald holding the weapon, timetables).

 

[Pardalis]

i've read the commission report.

So what is wrong with it, exactly?

 

[delphi_ote]

Please show me the evidence.

WHAT CONSTITUTES EVIDENCE?

 

[MarkyX]

...or better yet, go to the LC forum and fight the fascist tactics of the administrators (until you get banned after two posts).

Iran has more human rights than the LC forums.

 

[RandFan]

Please show me the evidence.

Have you had an opportunity to work on your hypothesis?

I'll explain why i think that the "war on terror" is a weapon of mass control in my answer to dubfan - please be patient. And dont' mix this up with palestine - that's a different issue.

 

[Yahzi]

I'm not defending LC here.

So you're not saying they're right... you're just saying the Commission is wrong.

Is there any theory that you think is right? Is there any evidence that would change your mind?

All you have is an impression. You choose that over piles and piles of facts, evidence, logic, and reason. You demand evidence be delivered to your doorstep, but you don't seem to think you need to provide any evidence of your own. All you have to do is ask questions, and then expect the whole world to leap to explain it all to you, to make it all nice and clear and comfy for you.

Your moniker is well chosen.

 

[RandFan]

@R. Mackey (and dubfan):

Thanks for explaining science to me. I admit that my english is very limited and it may seem that i don't know what i'm talking about.

My problem with the commission report: This is not natural science but an investigation of a crime. To formulate a hypothesis we have to have access to the existing facts. We have to know what exactly happened.

The scientific community has an open source approach. Data is accessible to everyone who wants to find a better hypothesis. This is not the case here. The people that formulated the leading hypothesis are the only ones that had access to the data. You have to trust them to believe they described the data correctly AND found the best hypothesis for explaining it.

That's not how the scientific process works and i doubt you had access to the complete archive of their interviews and sources.

I'm sorry but this is just wrong. It's clear that you haven't even looked at the report. How can you dismiss something you know nothing about? The report is sourced. It is based on hard science and evidence. I'm beginning to think that you are not sincere?

Please read the report and check the sources before you come here and tell us this crap.