911 Investigation obstructed

They were submitted to the commission as reports. The commission didn't ask for transcripts so they were part of the reports requested. Probably because what would be the point? The main purpose of doing this was to eliminate the interrogation procedures. The commission needed the information about Al Qeada, which they got. Had they decided that they wanted the actual transcripts instead of the reports that included them, they could have asked.

The issue here is the video tapes. Which is a legit argument. Unfortunately it doesn't help the twoofers who want to infer that this means there is an inside job. Because the information wasn't with held, just the format. And while normally the destruction of such tapes would not be a big deal, in this case the 9/11 commission was involved meaning they didn't have the right to destroy the tapes without asking.

But there will always be plenty of idiots around trying to twist this into some kind of conspiracy theory rather than the legal issue it is.

No one is trying to twist anything but you.

BTW

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316552,00.html

Sources: Destroyed CIA Videotapes Were Hundreds of Hours; No Transcripts Made

WASHINGTON — The destroyed CIA videotapes at the center of a growing investigation recorded roughly a "couple hundred hours" with two terror suspects, a small portion of which showed interrogators using "enhanced" interrogation methods that might have included waterboarding.

But, U.S. officials tell FOX News, no transcripts of the standard, VHS-style videotapes ever were made.
 
It has long been evident that LastChild has no evidence that 9-11 was an inside job.

It appears that the sole the purpose of his posts nowadays is a failed attempt to make us believe he's "edgy" and "hip."

Fweh.

Let the self-inflicted-beclowning of LastChild continue. I get great amusement at those who think they're more clever than everyone in the room.
 
So then what did it do? Tell us a scary story about the rise of Al Qaeda and how the country could take some obvious measures to prevent another attack?


Yes, it did describe the rise of al Qaeda. Offering recommendations to prevent another attack was the main purpose of the commission. Duh!
 
Yes, it did describe the rise of al Qaeda. Offering recommendations to prevent another attack was the main purpose of the commission. Duh!

The main purpose huh? So if that's the case I guess some of the destroyed tapes might have helped a little in determining what kind of recommendations to make.

What do you think?
 
The main purpose huh? So if that's the case I guess some of the destroyed tapes might have helped a little in determining what kind of recommendations to make.

What do you think?


Who knows how they could have related to any of the commission's recommendations. The tapes have absolutely nothing to do with your imaginary conspiracy. Sorry, but we all noticed.

Keep trying.
 
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Yes, it did describe the rise of al Qaeda. Offering recommendations to prevent another attack was the main purpose of the commission. Duh!

I thought the goal was to provide the fullest possible account? My sarcastic comment acknowledged the fact that the Report was nothing more than telling us a scary story about AQ and some rather obvious recommendations and did not accomplish their stated goal.

You didn't catch my sarcasm, which was obvious when you uttered an expletive I haven't heard since the fourth grade.
 
I thought the goal was to provide the fullest possible account? My sarcastic comment acknowledged the fact that the Report was nothing more than telling us a scary story about AQ and some rather obvious recommendations and did not accomplish their stated goal.

You didn't catch my sarcasm, which was obvious when you uttered an expletive I haven't heard since the fourth grade.


Sorry, but you're far too unintelligent to attempt sarcasm. Al Qaeda is very real and has claimed thousands of victims all over the world. Your evil, insane movement stands reality on its head to promote its idiotic fantasies, but the jihadists simply refuse to be wished out of existence.
 
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Who knows how they could have related to any of the commission's recommendations. The tapes have absolutely nothing to do with your imaginary conspiracy. Sorry, but we all noticed.

Keep trying.

Is the only thing to consider when determining if the 9/11 commission report really is the fullest possible account of history whether or not 9/11 was an inside job?

Is proving CTist wrong the most important objective for some people?
 
Is the only thing to consider when determining if the 9/11 commission report really is the fullest possible account of history whether or not 9/11 was an inside job?

Is proving CTist wrong the most important objective for some people?


Nobody believes that the 9/11 Commission's report is the "fullest possible account of history." To produce such an account is not a realistic goal. Military historians recently learned why some amphibious vehicles were swamped and sank before reaching the beaches at Normandy. The question of 9/11 being an inside job has been settled: it wasn't.
 
Sorry, but you're far too unintelligent to attempt sarcasm. Al Qaeda is very real and has claimed thousands of victims all over the world. Your evil, insane movement stands reality on its head to promote its idiotic fantasies, but the jihadists simply refuse to be wished out of existence.

You're rambling. The point is that you are defending an obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence by claiming that the contents were not relevent, even though you don't know what's on the tapes.

Now that's loyalty.
 
You're rambling. The point is that you are defending an obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence by claiming that the contents were not relevent, even though you don't know what's on the tapes.

Now that's loyalty.


No, you are merely stuck for something to say. An item appears in the news and you attempt to relate it to your fantasies. As it happens, the item is unrelated, but you don't care. It's not clear if the CIA was obligated to retain or even produce such tapes. It is clear that they contain nothing relating to your mad cause.
 
No, you are merely stuck for something to say. An item appears in the news and you attempt to relate it to your fantasies. As it happens, the item is unrelated, but you don't care. It's not clear if the CIA was obligated to retain or even produce such tapes. It is clear that they contain nothing relating to your mad cause.

Why aren't you supporting Kean's and Hamilton's assertions? They seem to think the tapes were important and that information was knowingly kept from them. But they've been saying that for awhile now, haven't they?
 
Nobody believes that the 9/11 Commission's report is the "fullest possible account of history." To produce such an account is not a realistic goal. Military historians recently learned why some amphibious vehicles were swamped and sank before reaching the beaches at Normandy. The question of 9/11 being an inside job has been settled: it wasn't.

How does your movement help in the pursuit of the fullest possible account? You don't spend any time finding out what did happen and all your time apologizing and making excuses for people who clearly don't deserve your blind faith. This is all done by you pointing to what you claim didn't happen all the while implying everything we need to know about 9/11 is settled. If it’s so settled then what the hell are you doing here?

What a dysfunctional waste of everyone’s time that helps absolutely nothing.
 
How does your movement help in the pursuit of the fullest possible account? You don't spend any time finding out what did happen and all your time apologizing and making excuses for people who clearly don't deserve your blind faith. This is all done by you pointing to what you claim didn't happen all the while implying everything we need to know about 9/11 is settled. If it’s so settled then what the hell are you doing here?

What a dysfunctional waste of everyone’s time that helps absolutely nothing.


My purpose here is the same as that of other rationalists. It is to combat false and pernicious beliefs based on ignorance and hatred. I haven't apologized or made excuses for anyone, as you know.
 
Why aren't you supporting Kean's and Hamilton's assertions? They seem to think the tapes were important and that information was knowingly kept from them. But they've been saying that for awhile now, haven't they?


I don't like either Kean or Hamilton. They're pompous gasbags. My dealings with the 9/11 Commission have left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
 
I don't like either Kean or Hamilton. They're pompous gasbags. My dealings with the 9/11 Commission have left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

Your "dealings"? Have you personally been involved in the proceedings, or do you just mean your reading of the Commission's work?
 
My purpose here is the same as that of other rationalists. It is to combat false and pernicious beliefs based on ignorance and hatred. I haven't apologized or made excuses for anyone, as you know.

And what is there to combat here at JREF of all places when the truth movement has been declared dead here numerous times? Who is it you feel the truth movement will sway in any great numbers if it's all really just a bunch of moon-bat crazy garbage that has already peaked? Especially here at JREF? Why to you need to come here and combat at all? Are you really combating here or are you just here enabling each other in your shared denial?

Why don’t you go somewhere like YouTube where it is full of young impressionable minds that might be lured in by the evil truth movement? That is if the truth is really what matters to you then why hide here and preach to the choir?
 
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