9/11 Truthcraft: Teaching 9/11 Truth to Kids

[JoeMorgue]

Oh Jesus I'm actually having to describe Minecraft as a counter-argument in a 9/11 thread. This is an event that is actually happening.

Minecraft is a creativity/building video game where the player character can mine different blocks and use them to create various structures and devices out of them.

The game has only the most rudimentary of physics engines, the various blocks do no actually have real life properties, and even basic physics factors like gravity, momentum, combustion, and... err reality either don't exist, are vastly simplified, or work in ways they don't in real life.

To make a "simulation" in Minecraft as an argument for or against a real world occurrence is simply beyond silly.

 

[WTC Dust]

Oh Jesus I'm actually having to describe Minecraft as a counter-argument in a 9/11 thread. This is an event that is actually happening.

Minecraft is a creativity/building video game where the player character can mine different blocks and use them to create various structures and devices out of them.

The game has only the most rudimentary of physics engines, the various blocks do no actually have real life properties, and even basic physics factors like gravity, momentum, combustion, and... err reality either don't exist, are vastly simplified, or work in ways they don't in real life.

To make a "simulation" in Minecraft as an argument for or against a real world occurrence is simply beyond silly.

Creating a 3D map is quite within the realm of Minecraft.
Attempting to model the physics of real life? No. Nobody should
use Minecraft that way.

 

[WTC Dust]

Pertinent facts make no difference to an artwork you claim is intended to educate children?

If you ever do get a chance to watch the videos, you'll notice how
they are chock-full of forensic evidence.

The Ground Zero map is an aid to understanding the forensic evidence.
The map provides a partial solution to a difficult problem, the wide
range of the evidence.

There is no one image that shows all the damage. I am mapping the
individual images to their locations near Ground Zero.

 

[Tomtomkent]

If you ever do get a chance to watch the videos, you'll notice how
they are chock-full of forensic evidence.

I did. They aren't. And they ignore evidence for the presence of aircraft.

Again, why do you feel pertinent facts have nobaring on your "educational" project?

 

[Tomtomkent]

Creating a 3D map is quite within the realm of Minecraft.

Nope. As the resolution will be in 1m cubes, what you build is not a map. At best it is an artistic representation.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Probably because it's hard to write a fact-filled report on a collapse that didn't happen.

So your entire theory is based on dust and light debris being forced outwards away from the collapse, instead of only dropping downwards?

So if I stamp on a yoghurt pot, I should not splatter my boots, unless I use explosives?

Congratulations, I think we can "solve" this mystery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L1WOnR2KBY

Perhaps you can understand the concerns that you want to "educate" children based on absolutely no understanding of the physics of the collapsing structure. Please feel free to explain why debris, dust, etc, from the tower would only travel downwards and not be forced away from the pressure along the easiest path of travel.

 

[brazenlilraisin]

I'm not that great, yet, at videos, so it's going to take
a long time for the whole story to come out.

You're not that great at self-assessment of the things you're that great at.

This isn't a mystery movie you're doing. Give us the conclusion first, then tell us how you arrived at this conclusion. I can think of one very likely reason why you would not do that...

 

[DGM]

Two weapons in the case of the towers: AA flight 11 and UA flight 175.

Let's not forget fire and gravity. Gravity is the force Tracy likes to "forget".

 

[Safe-Keeper]

When you choose to ignore what caused the WTC towers to fall makes it hard to focus on anything else.
It's kind of like modeling the sinking of the Titannic and insisting there was no iceberg.

No word about the zombie? You're obviously a shill.

http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/de/dr/de_dr_06a_001.jpg

 

[WTC Dust]

Episode 9 goes up today. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-0LFkT-ZXl01oAXmLZLxKBBhl0AxuWRw

 

[Nay_Sayer]

Disappointing, You neglected to build the obvious energy weapon.

 

[Skibum]

Disappointing, You neglected to build the obvious energy weapon.

Don't be ridiculous. Why would she waste her time building something she knows doesn't exist.

 

[WTC Dust]

Don't be ridiculous. Why would she waste her time building something she knows doesn't exist.

I'm surprised at this attitude coming from a JREFer.

You are not a mind reader. Mind reading doesn't exist.
I'd be a little embarrassed, if I were you.

 

[Spindrift]

I'm surprised at this attitude coming from a JREFer.

You are not a mind reader. Mind reading doesn't exist.
I'd be a little embarrassed, if I were you.

He wasn't mind reading he was simply stating that no rational being would bother wasting time including fantasy items when one is trying to prove a real 'theory'. One should no more include energy weapons capable of destroying the WTC towers as include Godzilla. In fantasy either could easily do it but in reality neither exist.

 

[Clayton Moore]

I did. They aren't. And they ignore evidence for the presence of aircraft.

Again, why do you feel pertinent facts have nobaring on your "educational" project?

Bad photo shopping is not evidence. There is a thread to discuss planes.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234414

 

[Tomtomkent]

Bad photo shopping is not evidence. There is a thread to discuss planes.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234414

Photos that you consider photoshopped or not was not what I reffered to.
The lumps of recovered aircraft for example are pertinent evidence. Identifying forms of evidence is pertinent to the discussion of educational content in a project intended to inform children.

Are you suggesting that evidence is not pertinent to the educational content of the project?

 

[Clayton Moore]

Photos that you consider photoshopped or not was not what I reffered to.
The lumps of recovered aircraft for example are pertinent evidence. Identifying forms of evidence is pertinent to the discussion of educational content in a project intended to inform children.

Are you suggesting that evidence is not pertinent to the educational content of the project?

Lumps? Is that a funny?

 

[Tomtomkent]

Lumps? Is that a funny?

No. It was a whimsical term for material evidence and recovered wreckage.

Would you care to remain on topic and answer my question. Are you suggesting evidence is not pertinent to the educational value of project intended to inform children?

 

[Clayton Moore]

No. It was a whimsical term for material evidence and recovered wreckage.

Would you care to remain on topic and answer my question. Are you suggesting evidence is not pertinent to the educational value of project intended to inform children?

Your evidence, that you talk about and don't provide, is garbage.

Besides this is not the correct thread. The mods already said that didn't they?

 

[Skibum]

I'm surprised at this attitude coming from a JREFer.

You are not a mind reader. Mind reading doesn't exist.
I'd be a little embarrassed, if I were you.

Then by all means, please do include an accurate representation of this device in your game. Please accurately include exactly where it was, how it was powered and how it functions. You know, since you seem to be trying to be as accurate and realistic as possible within this mockup you are doing.