9/11 — The Myth & the Reality

skepticalcriticalguy said:
I'm not saying I believe all this, 100%. But unlike you, I keep an open mind and read. Just because something seems preposterous doesn't make it untrue.
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How does dreaming up a book-full of possibilities for government involvement in 9/11 add any weight to the fantasy that they were actually involved in 9/11?

Everything you've proposed, without support, is utterly worthless. You've wasted more of your time than you can ever imagine.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
"People Power" revolutions are funded and manipulated by the CIA and MI6.

The anti-war movement was/is controlled by the FBI.

Clinton was blackmailed by moles in the government, and Monica was a Mossad agent.

etc.


I'm not saying I believe all this, 100%. But unlike you, I keep an open mind and read. Just because something seems preposterous doesn't make it untrue.
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Random statements are not falsifiable theories. You may as well be saying, "Purple salamaders keep stealing my newspaper" or "There's a dragon in my garage". Now, are you going to provide a 9/11 related, falsifiable claim that you feel has not been addressed or not?
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
How does dreaming up a book-full of possibilities for government involvement in 9/11 add any weight to the fantasy that they were actually involved in 9/11?

Everything you've proposed, without support, is utterly worthless. You've wasted more of your time than you can ever imagine.
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So you discard the credibility of a former Intel agent, or historian, or member of a past administration, as "just making stuff up?"
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
No, not the honourable people. It's the dishonourable ones.
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How do you distinguish. Hal Bidlack posts here from time to time. He worked at the Pentagon on 9/11 he picked up plane parts, he saw debris, he saw body parts, he states catagorically that a plane hit the pentagon...

Is he honorable or a liar...or in your world can you be both?

TAM:)
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
I'm not saying I believe all this, 100%. But unlike you, I keep an open mind and read.
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Okay:

How much of the 9/11 Commission report have you read?
How much of the Commission staff statements have you read?
How much of the Commission hearing transcripts have you read?
How much of the Congressional Joint Inquiry report and staff statements have you read?
How many 9/11-related OIG reports have you read?
How much of the NIST reports have you read?
How much of the transcripts and accounts of 9/11 first responders have you read?
How many books about 9/11 that primarily contain demonstrably accurate reporting have you read?

You see, while you're reading potboilers about Monica Lewinsky being paid by Mossad to give blowjobs, other people are reading material that may help them better understand the world around them.

Stop whining and do your homework.
 
T.A.M. said:
How do you distinguish. Hal Bidlack posts here from time to time. He worked at the Pentagon on 9/11 he picked up plane parts, he saw debris, he saw body parts, he states catagorically that a plane hit the pentagon...

Is he honorable or a liar...or in your world can you be both?

TAM:)
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I don't know. I don't know him personally (not that that could determine whether he's honourable or a liar). Did he say that the plane parts were part of a Boeing 767?

One thing you guys are correct about; the internet is a great source of disinformation. And a great place to spread lies.

Keep in mind, however, that you only define a lie as a lie if it is intentional. A lot of disinformation spreads through the truth movenment unintentionally. You have to recognize that this can happen in the skeptic world too. You guys seem to jump all over any piece of info that fits your world view. Just like them!

(I should probably separate this into two posts; the predictable response will be that I'm implying that Hal is lieing; I am not saying that).
 
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Okay:

How much of the 9/11 Commission report have you read?
How much of the Commission staff statements have you read?
How much of the Commission hearing transcripts have you read?
How much of the Congressional Joint Inquiry report and staff statements have you read?
How many 9/11-related OIG reports have you read?
How much of the NIST reports have you read?
How much of the transcripts and accounts of 9/11 first responders have you read?
How many books about 9/11 that primarily contain demonstrably accurate reporting have you read?

You see, while you're reading potboilers about Monica Lewinsky being paid by Mossad to give blowjobs, other people are reading material that may help them better understand the world around them.

Stop whining and do your homework.
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Plenty. Of all of it.
 
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