9/11 Physics from Non-Experts

[Horatius]

Yah, Horatius i just spent like 20 minutes since i saw your post figuring out exactly what you're saying, and YES!. There's an infinite amount of forces acting acting over infinitely small time intervals at an infinite amount of places. All of which need to equal zero! By his method, the building should have collapsed immediately. As soon as the exterior columns we're severed there was an additional force on the core right? Lets say the force went from 100N to 120N! NET FORCE DOES NOT EQUAL ZERO! NET FORCE ON THE CORE IS 20N! THE CORE ACCELERATES! hehe

I'm a little lost here. Are you agreeing with me, or arguing with me?

 

[Furcifer]

I'm a little lost here. Are you agreeing with me, or arguing with me?

I totally agree with you. While i was trying to figure out exactly what you were saying, i also realized that net force on the core was not zero. i should have broke that up into 2 posts

 

[Furcifer]

shoot, no not totally agree with you. the statement "the collapsing structure could not transfer an equal load to the ground" is a little off. the load transfered wasn't to the ground, but the contact point between the upper and the lower parts, it was uneven. i think that's what you mean right?

 

[R.Mackey]

I've been staying out of this ridiculous thread, but I have to give my congratulations to beachnut for his excellent photographs, proving once and for all that physics is real... I never figured anyone would go ahead with the experiment, but voila, we have!

Fear the Ninja Wave!

 

[Bobert]

The OP video proves that drugs are very very bad!

 

[Bobert]

I wonder if he was sniffing that marker before he started all of his drawings?

 

[Furcifer]

I wonder if he was using the marker because he ate all his crayons...

 

[Zep]

His mum won't let him have crayons for just that reason.

 

[gumboot]

I can provide an answer for F_net

Here it is...

*drum roll*

F_net>0

Evidence?

Building fall down.

-Gumboot

 

[Furcifer]

I think Mackey may have the right idea. My head hurts from trying to come up with analogies. Newton was reluctant to show his work to his peers, and now we're trying to pass this knowledge on through YouTube to CT's? Maybe this is just another lesson in futility. I am therefore accepting defeat. Instead, I will focus all my time on figuring out how beachnut got the squib into the egg. peace

 

[Horatius]

I totally agree with you. While i was trying to figure out exactly what you were saying, i also realized that net force on the core was not zero. i should have broke that up into 2 posts

shoot, no not totally agree with you. the statement "the collapsing structure could not transfer an equal load to the ground" is a little off. the load transfered wasn't to the ground, but the contact point between the upper and the lower parts, it was uneven. i think that's what you mean right?

Yeah, the resistive force of the lower structure (which would eventual transfer to the foundation) would be less than the force of gravity on the upper part - so the upper part continues to accelerate, due to the unbalanced force.

So yeah, I think we agree.

I am therefore accepting defeat. Instead, I will focus all my time on figuring out how beachnut got the squib into the egg. peace

Step 1: Blow egg out of shell. Step 2: Melt C4 (it melts, look it up!), inject melted C4 into hollow egg, Tape detonator to far side we can't see in pictures. Step 3: Profit!

 

[jaydeehess]

Yandros42 is now comparing himself to Einstein, Tesla, and Pasteur.

Apparently this aspect of Einstein;
There is not the slightest indication that (nuclear) energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
Dr.Albert Einstein, 1932


or this of Tesla;
No rocket will reach the moon save by a miraculous discovery of an explosive far more energetic than any known. And even if the requisite fule were produced it would still have to be shown that the rocket machine would operate at 459 degrees below zero - the temperature of interplanetary space
Nikole Tesla , November 1928

 

[Totovader]

Apparently this aspect of Einstein;
There is not the slightest indication that (nuclear) energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
Dr.Albert Einstein, 1932


or this of Tesla;
No rocket will reach the moon save by a miraculous discovery of an explosive far more energetic than any known. And even if the requisite fule were produced it would still have to be shown that the rocket machine would operate at 459 degrees below zero - the temperature of interplanetary space
Nikole Tesla , November 1928

At least both of them were smart enough to stipulate how they could be proven wrong (erroneously, but still).

All Yandros can do is claim that if you don't agree with his conclusion that you don't agree with Newtonian physics, and if you don't agree with Newtonian physics then you're an idiot...

 

[Horatius]

At least both of them were smart enough to stipulate how they could be proven wrong (erroneously, but still).

And even more importantly, within about a decade, Einstein actaully did admit he was wrong. It was his support that convinced the President to start work on the A-bomb.

 

[jaydeehess]

I posted several comments to the last video. I suppose that they will all be removed and Yandros will continue the banNazi tactics.

The ironic thing is that although he keeps saying that it is obvious that the net force is zero and therefore there would be no acelleration , it is in fact obvious that because of the mechanics of such a collapse that the net force could not be zero and that would result in an acellerating collapse zone.

 

[beachnut]

Yandros42 fan club

tramik2 (9 hours ago)
Yandros42, well done. The official story of 9/11 only grasps the minds of the least educated and vulnerable of individuals. The rest of us clearly see something is wrong. It makes you wonder if they will re-write the text books along with history to facilitate these lies. People need not only come forward as an individual, but together as a whole. For alone we are weak, but together we could change the world.

I am least educated, but these guys are not the least educated and vulnerable like me. Is there any hope for the least educated? Does this mean these guys are PhDs, like Judy Wood, and Thermite Jones?

But Yandros42 keeps fighting evil JREF. Since he does not understand he bans. Is Yandros42 the JDX from down-under. High school physics students for 9/11 truth, HSPSFT.

Yandros42 (3 days ago)
Yeah but try telling them that. They think claiming that I don't know physics makes it so. I mean they are even laughing about this debunking video on the JREF forum. They don't have any way to contest it, but they still laugh. Mentally unstable for sure.

Your video is funny. Your net force = 0, is very funny. The egg and the brick are very funny. You need to film the brick and the egg and prove to us the brick does not accelerate while it does it magic F=0 on the egg.

Yandros can not handle momentum, he needs to see Judy Wood's work.

But will Yandros go as far, and think of beam weapons?

Yandros42 (7 hours ago) Yep. His deathray devices were split up into pieces (the plans were) and sent to the four corners of the globe so that in order to gain access/knowledge of them/to them all the powers of the world had to work together. The ultimate result of which was (unfortunately) the US starwars program. Which consists almost entirely of Tesla based designs from what we know.

I think his wireless transmission technologies were/are the most interesting and overlooked of all his inventions.

Who knows. Has Yandros42 been watching too many movies?

 

[beachnut]

Apparently this aspect of Einstein;
There is not the slightest indication that (nuclear) energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
Dr.Albert Einstein, 1932


or this of Tesla;
No rocket will reach the moon save by a miraculous discovery of an explosive far more energetic than any known. And even if the requisite fule were produced it would still have to be shown that the rocket machine would operate at 459 degrees below zero - the temperature of interplanetary space
Nikole Tesla , November 1928

Yandros42 is like Einstein and Tesla. He is wrong about 9/11.

 

[beachnut]

Yandros42 (6 days ago)
If the building stood to begin with then every floor held up every floor above it. If you now cut the building in half and drop the top half onto the bottom half, the net force will still be zero once the top part has hit the bottom part. You can't avoid this basic point. The net force must be zero because NO MASS has been added and NO FORCE has been added and the structural integrity of the bottom of the building is still 100%.

I see, if we take the top half and drop it on the bottom half the net force = 0.

Is he saying the Titantic can not sink? Why do people act like the buildings are blocks of wood? Why are people so quick to back a hack just because he is saying what they want to hear.

I have been reading the post from the video, they are funny. http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=jYMDsBN3t80&fromurl=/watch?v=jYMDsBN3t80

 

[Horatius]

the structural integrity of the bottom of the building is still 100%.

That right there is his major malfunction. The bottom wasn't 100%. The whole building was an interdependent structure. Google "Hat Truss", for Science's sake!

The official story of 9/11 only grasps the minds of the least educated

Okay, I don't like pulling out credentials, but come on. I've got a Master's Degree in Physics, and there are people here who leave me in the dust. What do these punks have?

 

[Horatius]

Vipt
"Forces are these things: the ground pushes up, and gravity pushes the **** down"

Spoken like a true physicist!

holipsism (12 hours ago)
That's my favorite part too. I tell you, it is so refreshing to be in the presence of free thinkers and people who actually have intelligence. Thank you, Yandros42 and Vipt and anyone else in this thread with a brain.

Is is just me, or is Vipt snarking this guy, and he doesn't realize it?