9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Nonpareil]

That was after Nuremberg, when Hoess had fulfilled his task and 'confessing' the murder of 3,000,000 people, amongst others in a non-existing camp Wolzek.

The Hoess confession was a farce.

Again, no sources that state that Hoess ever made any statements about any camp called Wolzek. You continue to make unsubstantiated claims.

 

[Toke]

I am still shocked at the "Auschwitz as resort" claim.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Funny, but I can't find any sources that claim that Draper ever said anything about Hoess being tortured.

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: the IHR article pointing to a book you can buy on Amazon. Or do you think that professor Faurisson would waste his reputation as an expert in document analysis by stating things that can easily be refuted?

No, actually, I didn't. And the irony is staggering. Aren't you the one that uses the JREF as your own personal quote dump?

There is nothing against quoting from the original sources.

Apparently your reading comprehension is a lot lower than I expected. I have been researching Holocaust denialism since I joined this dicussion. I had already done plenty of research on the Holocaust itself.

For the 2nd time, that's 2 weeks. That's nothing.

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I just did. You are lying through your teeth. Your entire argument is nothing but one huge bare assertion fallacy mixed with pure falsity.

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Please keep in mind the Membership Agreement and do not use personal attacks to argue your point.

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[9/11-investigator]

I am still shocked at the "Auschwitz as resort" claim.

Toke is shocked, because he is a True Devout Believer, a holocaust fundamentalist.

Who said that, a 'resort'? But do you want to deny the presence of all these rather unexpected facilities like a theater, cinema, sport facilities, library, hospital, sauna, swimming pool, etc., on the Auschwitz-I premisses, a place where in the order of 10,000 people were gassed and cremated over the course of one year (according to the official story)?

Trojan admitted as much.

See, I thought you wouldn't.

Now comes the next step: how do you explain that?

I am very interested in hearing your answer.

 

[Nonpareil]

I gave them to you, Sunny: the IHR article pointing to a book you can buy on Amazon.

Which I showed to be a pile of steaming crap.

Or do you think that professor Faurisson would waste his reputation as an expert in document analysis by stating things that can easily be refuted?

Hardly a great reputation.

There is nothing against quoting from the original sources.

Except that they're not original sources. They're people making bare assertions and ranting about their antisemitic paranoid fantasy world.

For the 2nd time, that's 2 weeks. That's nothing. Uhh, Pure_Argent could you reveal to us what was the level of education you enjoyed?

What does it matter? What's the level of education you have on the subject.
Yes, I know that I've been researching Holocaust denialism for only two weeks. But what you fail to realize is that Holocaust denialism has everything to do with the Holocaust itself. My research on Holocaust denialism was looking up the claims you and your ilk make and their rebuttals. So far, you haven't yet deviated from any of the ones listed, and you haven't offered any new evidence that renders any rebuttals incorrect. My prior knowledge on the Holocaust is just a bonus.

Pure_Argent again avoids to explain his own link because he is too stupid to understand it.

1) Reported for breach of Rule 12. I'm done with your ad hominems.
2) I explained the link. It states and shows evidence that your claim is bare assertion and lies.

 

[TSR]

I am very interested in hearing your answer.

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While I am very interested in reviewing the Krege Report.

You *can* actually cite where this report can be read in its entirety, right?

I would make a modest suggestion that everyone arguing against the idiocy that is 9/11's denial, rather than allowing him post'n'run with his IHR crap, concentrate on a single point of fact until 9/11 either conceeds or is forced to ignore us all.

If someone has a better point than the non-existent Krege Report, I'm game.
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[Nonpareil]

Toke is shocked, because he is a True Devout Believer, a holocaust fundamentalist.

Who said that, a 'resort'? But do you want to deny the presence of all these rather unexpected facilities like a theater, cinema, sport facilities, library, hospital, sauna, swimming pool, etc., on the Auschwitz-I premisses, a place where in the order of 10,000 people were gassed and cremated over the course of one year (according to the official story)?

Trojan admitted as much.

See, I thought you wouldn't.

Now comes the next step: how do you explain that?

I am very interested in hearing your answer.

Perhaps you missed this post I made, which covers this entire subject.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Again, no sources that state that Hoess ever made any statements about any camp called Wolzek. You continue to make unsubstantiated claims.

Just go to google and type in 'Hoess Wolzek'.

It's not that difficult.

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/othercamps/hoess.html

The Fuhrer ordered the solution of the Jewish question in Europe. A few so called Vernichtungslager are existing in the General Government.

* Belzec near Rawa Ruska Ost Polen
* Treblinka near Malkinia on the River Bug
* Wolzek near Lublin**

Wolzek is a non-existing camp.

 

[Nonpareil]

Just go to google and type in 'Hoess Wolzek'.

It's not that difficult.

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/othercamps/hoess.html

The Fuhrer ordered the solution of the Jewish question in Europe. A few so called Vernichtungslager are existing in the General Government.

* Belzec near Rawa Ruska Ost Polen
* Treblinka near Malkinia on the River Bug
* Wolzek near Lublin**

Wolzek is a non-existing camp.

And this site makes no references whatsoever. Bare assertion. Why do you keep making unsubstantiated claims?

 

[9/11-investigator]

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While I am very interested in reviewing the Krege Report.

You *can* actually cite where this report can be read in its entirety, right?

I would make a modest suggestion that everyone arguing against the idiocy that is 9/11's denial, rather than allowing him post'n'run with his IHR crap, concentrate on a single point of fact until 9/11 either conceeds or is forced to ignore us all.

If someone has a better point than the non-existent Krege Report, I'm game.
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You know perfectly well that this topic was discussed much earlier. It was Trojan who pointed out that no 100 page or so report exists. I accepted that.

Nevertheless it's clear what Krege has done in 1999, I posted the video earlier in the thread: http://www.codoh.com/video/treblinka.mpg

And he presented his case as late as 2006 during the Holocaust conference in Teheran. Hear this interview from 2006 with Krege:

Part 1.
Part 2.
Part 3.

In the second part of this broadcast (09-08-2006), Michael Collins Piper interviews the REVISIONIST Richard Krege. Mr.Krege talks about his GPR investigation of TREBLINKA as well as his analysis of war-time air photos. Mr. Krege's planned "The Krege Report. Ground Penetrating Radar Research at the Operation Reinhardt Camps Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor, " has not seen the light of day due to the fact that all productions at THESIS&DISSERTATIONS PRESS have completely halted due to GERMAR RUDOLF'S imprisonment in Germany.

He hasn't taken back anything. But what's far more telling is that no holocaustian ever repeated this rather simple experiment to prove that the soil where the alleged mass grave for 870,000 people was located was indeed 'disturbed'. Until that day comes Krege has the advantage and the holocaustians have a problem.

 

[9/11-investigator]

And this site makes no references whatsoever. Bare assertion. Why do you keep making unsubstantiated claims?

Our resident top holocaust researcher Pure_Argent now stampede's into his next blunder and overlooks that the site is on his side. Every one who has studied the holocaust superficially knows this little embarrassing fact about Wolzek. But I am not really surprised that you don't.

My friendly advice, before you start posting again why don't you first read up a bit on the subject. Here is a good start:

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/

 

[Nonpareil]

You know perfectly well that this topic was discussed much earlier. It was Trojan who pointed out that no 100 page or so report exists. I accepted that.

Nevertheless it's clear what Krege has done in 1999, I posted the video earlier in the thread. Look it up.

And he presented his case as late as 2006 during the Holocaust conference in Teheran. Hear this interview from 2006 with Krege:

Part 1.
Part 2.
Part 3.

In the second part of this broadcast (09-08-2006), Michael Collins Piper interviews the REVISIONIST Richard Krege. Mr.Krege talks about his GPR investigation of TREBLINKA as well as his analysis of war-time air photos. Mr. Krege's planned "The Krege Report. Ground Penetrating Radar Research at the Operation Reinhardt Camps Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor, " has not seen the light of day due to the fact that all productions at THESIS&DISSERTATIONS PRESS have completely halted due to GERMAR RUDOLF'S imprisonment in Germany.

He hasn't taken back anything. But what's far more telling is that no holocaustian ever repeated this rather simple experiment to prove that the soil where the alleged mass grave for 870,000 people was located was indeed 'disturbed'. Until that day comes Krege has the advantage and the holocaustians have a problem.

And we've all been over this. The Krege "report" is invalid. It is unverified.

 

[Nonpareil]

Our resident top holocaust researcher Pure_Archer now stampede's into his next blunder and overlooks that the site is on his side. Every one who has studied the holocaust superficially knows this little embarrassing fact about Wolzek. But I am not really surprised that you don't.

Uh, what? What "little embarrassing fact"? You are not making sense. You posted a link to this site while talking about Wolzek. The site contains no information about Wolzek, except at the bottom, where it states that Wolzek is a non-existent camp, and offers no links to outside confirmation.

ETA: And it's Pure_ARGENT.

My friendly advice, before you start posting again why don't you first read up a bit on the subject. Here is a good start:

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/

Why don't you? You keep displaying your gross misunderstanding of history. Try to do a little research yourself.

 

[Kurse]

((Anything refering the Holocaust))

If you can't prove a simple fact that YOU WENT TO SEE THE GAS CHAMBERS, then you don't know jack, dip. Apparently it seems you can't even prove that you went to a camp (LIKE YOU SAID), so instead you try to prove the Holocaust didn't happen.

You're lying through you're teeth so much I'm sure your gums are bleeding!! This is a forum for DEBATE, as in you need facts not made up ****.

Now we will ask again. WHY DO YOU LIE.
Here, maybe you can't see it...
WHY DO YOU LIE.

 

[Toke]

9/11,
Pure Argent made an excellent rundown of your "resort" claim.

My shock is due to your ability to make up, or rather present made up, claims with what appears to be a strait face.

I understand that this Krege claims to have investigated something, but have never gotten around to presenting a report on it, and that the claims are good enough for you.

 

[George 152]

When a nazi sympathiser presents a 'fact' you can guarantee that the origin of the claim has come from a revisionist site.

The Holocaust happened. Millions of people were murdered by the nazi regime.
That the followers of such an evil regime should seek to deny the fact is reprehensible

 

[Simon39759]

So... when did Krege visit the camps? Funny as to how there is no evidence that he did? You'd expect him to have plenty of evidences of his presence there, if only for tax purposes (receipts, photographs, actual print-out from the radars...)
Strange how he always refused to produce any of that, just as if it was all made up!

 

[Kurse]

So... when did Krege visit the camps? Funny as to how there is no evidence that he did? You'd expect him to have plenty of evidences of his presence there, if only for tax purposes (receipts, photographs, actual print-out from the radars...)
Strange how he always refused to produce any of that, just as if it was all made up!

I KNOW RIGHT?! lol

 

[9/11-investigator]

Take a good look at this picture:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,973131,00.jpg

Hoess (middle/front with cigaret).

Study the eyes and facial expression of this man, use your intuition and instinctively know.

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-25000-7.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-25000-9.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-25000-10.html

Auschwitz SS-officers. They look very relaxed. Completely incompatible with the deads they allegedly were doing.

Now here is a real monster, Beria: http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1953/1101530720_400.jpg

Ordered the killing of the Polish elite in Kathyn. Was privately engaged in torture and rape.

 

[Nonpareil]

Take a good look at this picture:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,973131,00.jpg

Hoess (middle/front with cigaret).

Study the eyes and facial expression of this man, use your intuition and instinctively know.

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-25000-7.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-25000-9.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-25000-10.html

Auschwitz SS-officers. They look very relaxed. Completely incompatible with the deads they allegedly were doing.

Now here is a real monster, Beria: http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1953/1101530720_400.jpg

Ordered the killing of the Polish elite in Kathyn. Was privately engaged in torture and rape.

Oh wow. So you think you can look at someone and just know immediately if they have ever committed a crime?
The sheer... oh my god... I'm going to have to go lie down.