9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Humanzee]

Seriosly 9/11-Investigator you aren't saying all those photos are fake. As a lurker I stomached looking at them for the sake of this argument and you say I should hand-wave them away as fake? Good lord what size conspiracy are you envoking to support your socio-economic fears?

 

[Humanzee]

You know...forget the Jews or any affected demographic in WW2...the fact is that the Nazi's killed a lot of innocent people. People that had nothing to do personally with German histrionics. If you think my father wronged you that doesn't give you license to wrong me. To think otherwise is racist.

 

[headscratcher4]

You know...forget the Jews or any affected demographic in WW2...the fact is that the Nazi's killed a lot of innocent people. People that had nothing to do personally with German histrionics. If you think my father wronged you that doesn't give you license to wrong me. To think otherwise is racist.

You should realize after reading this thread that it is now indisputable that, except for the bombing of Dresden, no one died in WWII. All of the allegations against the Germans were faked by the jooos and their patsy American flunkies. If there were any deaths at all, it was merely while they were quietly waiting for a train to take them to the "east".

 

[dafydd]

I can believe that: Goebbles didn't exactly look like the Aryan superman, did he?

With his short stature and club foot, Goebbles, who went on and on about the teutonic-nordic superiority, was sarcastically known as "Wotan's Mickey Mouse".

I'll bet that 911investigator doesn't look like an Aryan superman either.

 

[headscratcher4]

I'll bet that 911investigator doesn't look like an Aryan superman either.

But probably very much like a troll....how Wagnarian.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Tonight, 23:35 Amsterdam time, Nick Griffin will appear on BBC question time, the program of that horrible Dimbleby. I am sure you all will watch.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6884722.ece

No doubt the The Times spent considerable time in selecting a photo in which Griffin looks real good.

Griffin on the BBC: ‘the BBC is stupid to let me appear'

Griffin on the Holocaust: it is notable, however, how swiftly he seeks refuge behind his lawyer’s advice and the legal system when asked whether he is willing to stand by past statements that the murder of six million Jews in the Holocaust never happened. “I simply can’t discuss it — not allowed. I can’t even say what I used to believe and why I’ve changed it — without the risk of being indicted in France.”

...

Holocaust:

1998 In the witness box before being convicted of inciting racial hatred “I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the Earth is flat . . . I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter day witch-hysteria”

Now “I’m the most unpopular man in Britain among neo-Nazis. Hitler was a very bad thing without a shadow of doubt, he was a mass murderer. He gave the whole concept of separate human identities a bad name. It was an absolute disaster but he is also something from the dim and distant past who has no real relevance for Britain today”

Can somebody explain to me in what sense Griffin has changed his opinion regarding the holocaust since 1998?

 

[9/11-investigator]

I sympathize.The only thing keeping me from honoring 9/11 Invesitigator with a place on my Ignore list is that he would make a big thing about how I am afraid to face his "proof" that the Holocaust never happened, and I don't want to give the SOB the satisfaction.

Not necessary dudalb. I hereby solemny promise not to take advantage of such a move. Your 'contributions' are lightweight to the tune that I probably would not even notice at all that you had left the building.

Go unencumbered my friend into your well deserved retirement. Your ordeal is over.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I would be tempted to join you, but not quit sure if I can stomach the likes of 9/11 much longer.

Yes, this topic is not for the faint hearted.
Don't do this to yourself Amazer if you are not up to it.
Go play a video game, watch MTV or football.

 

[Nonpareil]

Yes, this topic is not for the faint hearted.
Don't do this to yourself Amazer if you are not up to it.
Go play a video game, watch MTV or football.

So... are you going to actually attempt to respond to my debunking, or do you admit defeat? If you do, I'm off to go play video games.

 

[Uzzy]

He does have a humorous way of responding when people bring up evidence. He seems automatically conditioned to dismiss any evidence as bias, faked and fraudulent, given that he starts from the position that the Holocaust was faked and fraudulent. He then, of course, accuses everyone else of not providing any evidence.

This merry-go-round has gone on for 52 pages now. Oh well.

Anyway! One hopes that the audience will push that idiot Griffin on his holocaust denial views. Should be very effective in combating the Nazis here in the UK.

 

[Kurse]

Well he will soon learn that he is wrong. =P

 

[9/11-investigator]

The Holocaust is not a singular event that occurred one time at one camp

Nobody ever claimed it was, but thanks for pointing that out to us anyway.

its a systematic execuation of millions of innocents throughout Nazi occupied Europe - gassing is one method of murder, it is not the sole method or even the primary method.

Trojan comes with fascinating new views. According to him the holocaust did not primarily happen by gassing in the death camps and contradicts Yad Vashem as reported by Wikipedia:

Auschwitz II.......1,400,000
Belzec...................600,000
Chelmno...............320,000
Jasenovac.............600,000
Majdanek..............360,000
Maly Trostinets........65,000
Sobibór.................250,000
Treblinka...............870,000

Total:.................4,500,000

I never heard that the Nazi's carried out their genocidal program in the death camps by any other method than gassing (with either HCN or CO)

There is not just one photo - why do you lie?

http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/5963

Trojan has found a new holocaust bone (in page 52 in the thread!) and drops it before my feet and enthusiasticly wags his tail and barks: 'you see, I finally did it. I proved the holocaust!'.

Trojan in the mean time is moving the goal posts and changes the definition of the holocaust. No longer the holocaust took predominantly place in the 'gaschambers' but on the streets of Europe.

Borrowing a phrase from Patrick Buchanan: "during WW2 50 million Christians and Jews died". Nobody denies that. So it is not difficult to collect a few hundred pictures (most of them without any reference to context) of a few thousand of dead Germans, Russians (from the Gulags for instance), Ukrainians, Poles and oh yes Jews, throw them in a box and put a label on it: "the Germans did it".

It's difficult for Trojan to keep the proper meaning of this thread in his volatile brain: namely whether the holocaust as a program, carried out in an industrial manner in death camps, took place or not. Of this event only 1 picture exists (the Auschwitz picture) of which I showed it was doctered. Trojan, who frequents holo-forums for years now, probably was well aware of the fraudulous nature of that picture. He posted it anyway hoping that 'the resident Nazi' was unable to debunk.

Fehlanzeige.

 

[9/11-investigator]

So... are you going to actually attempt to respond to my debunking, or do you admit defeat? If you do, I'm off to go play video games.

Pure Argent (ah well, some variation on the classic theme... Goldstein, Safire, Rubin, Pearl, Silverstein, etc.) who joins the thread in page 52 or so wants the preferential treatment. He posts the Yad Vashem link and merily thinks that he has proven the holocaust. Go study this thread pall and come back once you have finished this task. By the time you know the answer to your silly suggestion.

My prediction for where this thread is going: 9/11-investigator will continue to spout delusion, lies and hate for the next few pages while I struggle to break down his wall of willful ignorance. In the end, it will make no difference, because he's not here to debate, but to preach. But I'll do it anyway, because I have nothing better to do with my life.

Sleeping under the bridge?

 

[Kurse]

Hanging, and firing a bullet through a line of heads were two other ways.
And how was something that old doctored? Now what kind of mission would..um..THE WHOLE WORLD have to fake this.

I have a feeling your just a neo-nazi trying to clone hitler. Now, if you really want to convince people that it didnt happen, show how EVERY picture of it was doctored. How every single one was faked by different factions of the war, INCLUDING the germans.

Next, explain Hitler. He called out saying that the Jews were responsible for everything. Heck, he was such a prick he used a powerful radio signal just to show the Germans' strength.

What about the books? Anne Frank's diary? Other books, auto-biographies, and diaries? They ALL can't be wrong.

 

[Kurse]

Pure Argent who joins the thread in page 52 or so wants the preferential treatment. He posts the Yad Vashem link and merily thinks that he has proven the holocaust. Go study this thread pall and come back once you have finished this task. By the time you know the answer to your silly suggestion.

Your not a narrator so stop acting like one.
As for your information, if evidence wasn't shown more than once then there would be no history.

With that said, The Holocaust (once again) has more weight than you do. Show proof, not opinion.

 

[Arkyrion]

Hi. I'm new.

In the past 52 pages of this song and dance, I have yet to see a single piece of evidence from 9/11 that hasn't been published by a Neo-Nazi organization. Nothing from anyone who does not express a rampant hatred of the Jews, and nothing that has any backing in recorded history.

And to be honest, the only information I've gleaned from reading through this thread is this: 9/11 is a racist bigot who refuses to so much as consider the viewpoint of his opposition. This forum is intended for debate and polite argument, not for preaching. Please use it as such.

 

[Arkyrion]

Haha, it is now plain for everybody to see: dtugg is unable to provide proof.

Now bunnycaust troofer dtugg: give proof or shut up.

Haha, it is now plain for everybody to see: 9/11-Investigator is unable to provide proof.

Now, neo-nazi racist bigot 9/11-Investigator: give proof or shut up.

 

[9/11-investigator]

and firing a bullet through a line of heads were two other ways.

Aha, a sort of bowling but then with bullets. The Germans had to rely on the prisoners to cooperate with this exercise and sit real still for this to succeed.

In fact, the Germans did far worse things:

- Steam people to death like lobsters in 10 steam chambers at Treblinka
- Bash people's brains in with a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine while listening to the radio, then burn the bodies in 4 portable ovens
- Make lampshades of human skin (revisionist classic)
- Cut people's heads off and then shrink them -- make pocketbooks and driving gloves for SS officers out of human skin
- Torture people in specially mass-produced "torture boxes" made by Krupp
- Burn human bodies using human fat for fuel -- burn human bodies using no fuel at all after removing them from the gas chambers without wearing gas masks -- burn 80,000 bodies in 2 old ovens
- Burn human bodies in holes dug in a swampy plain which is frozen in January where it rains and snows constantly

You know, this all really, really happened, because it was written in NMT documents composed by our noble allies. The Soviets had extensive valuable experience in how to conduct these show trials.

Links lead to photo-copies of said NMT documents.

This NMT was a joke. And once you have you story in place from then on everything is possible. You say you escaped from the evil Nazi death camp as a child and was subsequently raised by wolves? Wonderful! We'll invite you to Oprah and provide you with a fat contract to write a book about it. Oh and mr. Spielberg has already shown interest in the film script.

NMT = Nuremberg Military Tribunal

 

[9/11-investigator]

Haha, it is now plain for everybody to see: 9/11-Investigator is unable to provide proof.

Now, neo-nazi racist bigot 9/11-Investigator: give proof or shut up.

I know that in failed states like the US the accused has to prove his innocence. In civilized nations however it's the other way around.

 

[Kurse]

Aha, a sort of bowling but then with bullets. The Germans had to rely on the prisoners to cooperate with this exercise and sit real still for this to succeed.

Why, I'm sure many would take a bullet to the head over being boiling alive or sufficated.

I never heard that the Nazi's carried out their genocidal program in the death camps by any other method than gassing (with either HCN or CO)

Hmm I wonder what other ways there were....Oh, wait. You told us some of them. Doesn't that contradict you?

In fact, the Germans did far worse things:

- Steam people to death like lobsters in 10 steam chambers at Treblinka
- Bash people's brains in with a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine while listening to the radio, then burn the bodies in 4 portable ovens
- Make lampshades of human skin (revisionist classic)
- Cut people's heads off and then shrink them -- make pocketbooks and driving gloves for SS officers out of human skin
- Torture people in specially mass-produced "torture boxes" made by Krupp
- Burn human bodies using human fat for fuel -- burn human bodies using no fuel at all after removing them from the gas chambers without wearing gas masks -- burn 80,000 bodies in 2 old ovens
- Burn human bodies in holes dug in a swampy plain which is frozen in January where it rains and snows constantly

Steaming People - TRUE
Bashing heads - TRUE
Burning of Bodies - TRUE
Use of Large Ovens - TRUE

Why do you need so much fuel to keep a campfire going--oh wait!!! You dont. The 'fuel' would be wood. In this case they were using the bodies as fuel. Now you asked evidence of the gas chambers? The bodies were burned, they would run out of room in the death camp if they kept the bodies. Also, they didn't have a need for gas masks, since they won't die from being exposed for a brief moment.

Your denying truth because you can't disprove it. The evidence is against you. Just give up.