9/11: How they Faked the Videos

[pgimeno]

Why, if a wing was that strong, wouldn't it just wedge them apart?

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Friction (Edit: and possibly the nose ribs too, see http://www.flight-mechanic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/1-23.jpg). The wings move towards the plane as it penetrates and the wings don't, at least for as long as they remain connected to the plane (because the fuselage would pull them). That explains the inwards bowing of the steel columns.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

I remember this gem. The wrongest thing ever written in the last decade (Possibly of any decade)

 

[smartcooky]

The burden of proof is on original claimants, those that insist a jet caused the damage.

A burden that has been met multiple times, in spades.

https://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

The lightly damaged cladding and the sharply bent steel at the left of both impact holes are proof that the original claim is false.

Nope. "The lightly damaged cladding and the sharply bent steel at the left of both impact holes" are simply proof that you don't understand the first thing about aircraft engineering and construction, and the way the towers were built.

I have offered an alternative explanation that does fit fits my misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the evidence.

FTFY

If you think the evidence doesn't support my conclusion, and instead supports the conclusion that it was caused by the head on crash of a 767, please explain.

This has been explained to you by other posters and myself. You simply handwaved it away, dismissing it out of hand, so there isn't much point restating it.

You are wrong, you just don't know it, and won't accept it.

 

[bknight]

A burden that has been met multiple times, in spades.

https://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf



Nope. "The lightly damaged cladding and the sharply bent steel at the left of both impact holes" are simply proof that you don't understand the first thing about aircraft engineering and construction, and the way the towers were built.



FTFY



This has been explained to you by other posters and myself. You simply handwaved it away, dismissing it out of hand, so there isn't much point restating it.

You are wrong, you just don't know it, and won't accept it.

In spades.

 

[carlitos]

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I have explained ad nausea......

You sure have.

 

[Trojan]

Occam is truely dead

 

[carlitos]

Occam is truely dead

I agree.

In Mexico, there is a saying to the effect of "there as many kinds of truth as there are kinds of bananas." I have used this sentence to describe how one's culture affects your perception. An American typically has only seen one kind of banana, and might interpret that phrase literally as saying there is one type of truth. The Truth^TM. A Mexican might know several kinds of bananas, and also several kinds of truth. Depends on your point of view.

So I posit that Occam's Razor was killed by Gillette, with 6 blades and lubrication strips for your sensitive skin. I know that it's not literally "razor" but those conspiracy charts with all of the arrows vs. a straight line to the truth makes me think that this works.

 

[sts60]

Why, you don't think certain corrupt members of the police and fire departments might not want to make a few extra bucks for planting plane parts and setting a few derelict cars on fire?

I used to ride with guys who were at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001, pulling pieces of airliner and airline passenger out of the building. I literally trusted them with my life. You’re absolutely delusional.

Maybe you’d like to turn the page and start a thread about your Apollo “hoax” beliefs? That would be amusing. I promise I’d come play.

 

[BStrong]

I agree.

In Mexico, there is a saying to the effect of "there as many kinds of truth as there are kinds of bananas." I have used this sentence to describe how one's culture affects your perception. An American typically has only seen one kind of banana, and might interpret that phrase literally as saying there is one type of truth. The Truth^TM. A Mexican might know several kinds of bananas, and also several kinds of truth. Depends on your point of view.

So I posit that Occam's Razor was killed by Gillette, with 6 blades and lubrication strips for your sensitive skin. I know that it's not literally "razor" but those conspiracy charts with all of the arrows vs. a straight line to the truth makes me think that this works.

This trainwreck of logic rolls like the classic example of conspiraziods - residential house fire with a fatality. Fire Marshall does their job, ME does likewise.

Final report lists electrical short as cause of fire, smoke inhalation as cause of death.

Enter the conspirazoid - "did you investigate the possibility of spontaneous human combustion? NO! conspiracy! 11!!ventry!

No planers are right in there.

As an aside. I believe that certain folks maintain membership in ISF to prevent discussion of their "theories" using the respect that they deserve.

 

[BStrong]

I used to ride with guys who were at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001, pulling pieces of airliner and airline passenger out of the building. I literally trusted them with my life. You’re absolutely delusional.

Maybe you’d like to turn the page and start a thread about your Apollo “hoax” beliefs? That would be amusing. I promise I’d come play.

You're right, but the conspirazoids generally don't care if you were a victim or a witness, unless you're on board with their delusional pov.

 

[bknight]

I used to ride with guys who were at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001, pulling pieces of airliner and airline passenger out of the building. I literally trusted them with my life. You’re absolutely delusional.

Maybe you’d like to turn the page and start a thread about your Apollo “hoax” beliefs? That would be amusing. I promise I’d come play.

Yes I'd do that also. but facts that don't support the CT's belief are hand waved.

 

[Oystein]

I have a new theory that a giant walked up to the building and poked holes in it with his giant fingers, then squeezed, poked and twisted some more until he had made a pleasingly plane-shaped hole.

He then breathed fire into the hole because this kind of giant breathes fire.

I understand how this may seem ridiculous to you, but it does match the evidence that was provided. Specifically the lightly bent aluminum sheeting and the progressively worse damage and sharp bends to the steel columns, and on the right column from the left of both towers, an inward blasting hole through a box column that was nowhere near where the alleged jet's engine impacted.

I can probably draw you a picture if you think that would be cool. I can't decide if he should have a hat. Do giants wear hats?

That a Giant Nomnom!

(I used to have a 33 rpm "audio book" of a children's tale with the (German) title "Der Riese Schmatzschmatz" ("Nomnom The Giant"), so named for the sounds he made while eating)

 

[Oystein]

You know that's silly, everyone knows it was the giant Spaghetti Monster, I mean doesn't that hole look like a Giant spaghetti monster hole?

Flying Spaghetti Monster - don't ignore that Hir Noodliness is eternally Flying!

 

[jimbob]

I have a new theory that a giant walked up to the building and poked holes in it with his giant fingers, then squeezed, poked and twisted some more until he had made a pleasingly plane-shaped hole.

He then breathed fire into the hole because this kind of giant breathes fire.

I understand how this may seem ridiculous to you, but it does match the evidence that was provided. Specifically the lightly bent aluminum sheeting and the progressively worse damage and sharp bends to the steel columns, and on the right column from the left of both towers, an inward blasting hole through a box column that was nowhere near where the alleged jet's engine impacted.

I can probably draw you a picture if you think that would be cool. I can't decide if he should have a hat. Do giants wear hats?

It probably needs prawns

 

[bruto]

A little preliminary research suggests that while many giants wore hats (cone shaped fabric hats being favored) many went bare headed. But remember too that one of the most famous (and, according to many, literally real) giants, Goliath, is usually pictured with a helmet, which opens up a whole new set of possibilities for just what made that hole. I call this the "headbutt" theory, much more palatable than the one in question, which I suspect has its syllables reversed.

 

[FFTR]

It is a long story that I have tried to make as concise as possible, but if you want an alternative explanation that fits all the evidence, see below.

How the holes were cut.
How the videos were faked.
How the towers were destroyed.

Also:
Background of the architect, Yamasaki. Deep ties to the CIA and the defense industry.
The shady background of the WTC and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
Who Knew What When? The New York City Cover-Up

Your sources are not very creditable. I have seen those before.

So Prager and Gage are all wrong. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Robin]

I haven't been paying attention. Have we looked at the Gojira theory yet?

 

[yankee451]

Your sources are not very creditable. I have seen those before.

So Prager and Gage are all wrong. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.

My sources are the same videos and photos we all have at our disposal, but which Gage and Prager refuse to address. Happy to help.

 

[yankee451]

I haven't been paying attention. Have we looked at the Gojira theory yet?

I'm not sure. They'll look anywhere but at the lightly damaged cladding and the sharply bent steel columns, which by themselves prove the videos of the planes are fraudulent.

 

[yankee451]

Friction (Edit: and possibly the nose ribs too, see http://www.flight-mechanic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/1-23.jpg). The wings move towards the plane as it penetrates and the wings don't, at least for as long as they remain connected to the plane (because the fuselage would pull them). That explains the inwards bowing of the steel columns.