9/11: How they Faked the Videos

yankee451 said:
Full article here.

How they spoofed the “live” shots of flight 175:
  1. Rehearse the handful of perspectives of flight 175 that will be broadcast live.
  2. The fireball will erupt from the south face of the South Tower.
  3. The rehearsed perspectives were from the north face of the North Tower (opposite the fireball).
  4. By design these rehearsed “live” perspectives will fail to capture the crash of the alleged plane.
  5. Create a CGI animation of a jet with a transparent background to match each of the rehearsed shots.
  6. On the big day: from the same rehearsed perspectives, capture video footage of the fireball that erupted from the south face of the South Tower.
  7. Live television is never live; there is always a broadcast delay to prevent unwanted content from airing. Utilizing the broadcast delay of how ever many seconds were necessary,
  8. overlay the CGI animations onto the live videos of the fireball.
  9. Flatten the video layers of the CGI planes and the live fireball.
  10. Release the merged video layers as “live.”


How they spoofed the “amateur” videos (not live):
  1. Deploy dozens of photographers to pose as amateurs.
  2. Rehearse each of their perspectives and create a CGI animation of a jet with a transparent background to match.
  3. The first fireball erupts from the north face of the North Tower.
  4. 18 minutes until the next fireball.
  5. All the live network broadcasts are capturing videos of the hole in the north face of the North Tower.
  6. Dozens of “amateur” cameras are capturing videos of the south face of the South Tower.
  7. The second fireball erupts, this time from the south face of the South Tower.
  8. The Networks broadcast live videos showing what looks like a plane crashing into the towers; the world is horrified.
  9. Each of the “amateur” photographers edits their respective video, removing what really cut the hole in the South Tower and adding a plane.
  10. The propaganda organs release these videos periodically over the following days, weeks, months and years.
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I don't understand why nobody here takes this seriously.

Actually I do. As one of the photographers paid to pose as an amateur for 9/11, I take it very seriously. That's why I will never talk about it to anyone who isn't in on the conspiracy.

What's that you say, I just did? But of course you know better. I know that you are in on it to too. That's why you keep presenting 'evidence' so full of holes that a child could see through it - to discredit the 9/11 truth movement and make sure nobody bothers to look at the real evidence - which irrefutably proves it was an inside job.

But this a vast conspiracy - much vaster than a mere 10 to 50 thousand crisis actors. Current estimates put the number of people 'in on it' at ~35 million worldwide, with more joining the conspiracy every day. And not just since 9/11, but before it too. The planning took years, centuries even. You know that bit in the Bible where Jesus says "I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."? He was in on it.
 
yankee451 said:
I was using the Purdue cartoon to demonstrate that the engine hole was nowhere near the inward blasting hole on the ninth column from the left.

[qimg]https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Engine-allegedly-hit-here-1024x653.jpg[/qimg]
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Caused by the flap running gear and strake, which lines up exactly with that point. These are strong-points in the wing frame.

pgimeno said:
... and over and over...

We're not talking water, nor aluminium like the one used in cans. We're talking an alloy with about one third the strength of the columns.
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Are you expecting that there will be NO damage to the columns because they are "weaker"? Srsly?
 
yankee451 said:
For many reasons, not the least of which is mostly hollow aluminum jets cannot do what dense-metal penetrating missiles can do, and if they could do, then there would be no need for dense-metal penetrating missiles. Real planes leave parts that can be tracked. Real planes would mean real bodies, which can be identified. If the plane didn't strike dead center and only clipped a wing, there was no way to contain the crash damage, and much, much, more. Explained by the late Gerard Holmgren, here:
https://911crashtest.org/why-they-didnt-use-planes/
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What 'dense metal' do you think missiles are made from?

What do you think happened to all the passengers and crew that were aboard the aircraft?
 
yankee451 said:
Air launched air to surface standoff missiles, such as the JASSM or something very much like it.

Yes, there were reports of missiles being seen and heard at the WTC and at Shanksville.
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Which 'dense metal' are JASSM missiles made from?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
What about the people that saw it with their own eyes?
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I would suppose that if a person believes that every single picture taken of the event occurring in the middle of one of the biggest cities on the planet was faked by expertly placed shills in impossible time using nonexistent technology, such that no undoctored photography of the event is possible, the purported disappearance of a few hundred people is small potatoes.

I mean, really, why sweat the little lunacies.
 
yankee451 said:
How they spoofed the “amateur” videos (not live):
  1. Deploy dozens of photographers to pose as amateurs.
  2. Rehearse each of their perspectives and create a CGI animation of a jet with a transparent background to match.
  3. The first fireball erupts from the north face of the North Tower.
  4. 18 minutes until the next fireball.
  5. All the live network broadcasts are capturing videos of the hole in the north face of the North Tower.
  6. Dozens of “amateur” cameras are capturing videos of the south face of the South Tower.
  7. The second fireball erupts, this time from the south face of the South Tower.
  8. The Networks broadcast live videos showing what looks like a plane crashing into the towers; the world is horrified.
  9. Each of the “amateur” photographers edits their respective video, removing what really cut the hole in the South Tower and adding a plane.
  10. The propaganda organs release these videos periodically over the following days, weeks, months and years.
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Anyone who takes this pile of horse puckey seriously, needs their head examined.

Quite typical of CTs....create ever more preposterous and unlikely sequences of events, from whole cloth, to account for the simple, inconvenient facts and truth.
 
yankee451 said:
<snip> Even with military-grade smoke machines to embellish the carnage,<snip>
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Oh hi steve! That reminds me of another favorite of mine - a crappy low resolution youtube screen grab of what you touted to be a military smoke generator, but alas, hi-rez once again tripped you up:

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I've gone through the thread where you make this claim and doggone it, I don't see where you've admitted your error and retracted the claim.

Hrm.

:sdl:
 
Speaking of fake photographs, I have delved into the super-seekrit vaults of truth, and this obviously unretouched original photograph shows clearly that our esteemed thread-starter is working with poor data.


conspiracy breakthrough.jpg
 
yankee451 said:
Air launched air to surface standoff missiles, such as the JASSM or something very much like it.

Yes, there were reports of missiles being seen and heard at the WTC and at Shanksville.
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The JASSM has a wingspan of 2.7m, meaning that the body of the missile could pass through a window, leaving only the flimsy (compared to an airliner) alloy wings to damage the columns. So, each missile would need to strike a column exactly head-on and you'd need one missile per column. To cause the observed damage you'd need a swarm of them, but they'd have to strike at different times to avoid colliding with each other while in flight.

You haven't thought this through, have you? Do over!
 
GlennB said:
The JASSM has a wingspan of 2.7m, meaning that the body of the missile could pass through a window, leaving only the flimsy (compared to an airliner) alloy wings to damage the columns. So, each missile would need to strike a column exactly head-on and you'd need one missile per column. To cause the observed damage you'd need a swarm of them, but they'd have to strike at different times to avoid colliding with each other while in flight.

You haven't thought this through, have you? Do over!
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Not only would you need a swarm, but each missile would have to be precisely aimed to mimic the slant angle of the two airliners wings, and a larger missile for the engines holes, and even larger one for the fuselage holes.

Also, JASSM (more correctly the AGM-158) is designed to take out surface targets. Its equipped with a 450 kg warhead containing about 100kg of AFX-757 explosive. It has a contact fuse design so that the blast force is lateral. The warhead contains nowhere near enough explosive to make the Shanksville crater... not even close.

Also, the AGM-158 casing is constructed from composite materials... so how is it that no remnants of composite materials and no high-explosive residues were found at the Shanksville site, yet human remains, aluminium and aircraft parts specifically identified as coming from N591UA, a Boeing 757-222 were found there. Flight 93 crashed at 10:02 am. First responders started arriving at the scene from around 10:07 am. Five minutes is nowhere near enough time for the sooper seekrit fake-squad to

1. Get to the burning crash site
2. Find and remove all the evidence of the AGM-158's composites and explosives residues from the scene
3. Plant aircraft wreckage and human remains
4. Get away before the first responders see them

These twoofer idiots just do not even bother to think about the practical realities of what would need to be done to make their harebrained, bat-**** crazy theories into reality.
 
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Yankee... give it up.... you need to acknowledge that your ideas have no credibility at all. Debating them is a waste of time but you have been "schooled". Have decency and humility and admit you were wrong.

The so called official story may not be 100% correct / accurate because there were no transducers and so to monitor the buildings and thoroughly. Educated guess were used. This is pretty much what forensic science does to reconstruct a disaster.

And not only that... who could possibly engineer and stage what we witnessed... such that it looked like a disaster no one has ever seen? Note how much effort has gone into all the post event study and it still impossible to faithfully simulate the event with 100% accuracy.

Your work is not productive. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
 
smartcooky said:
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Also, JASSM (more correctly the AGM-158) is designed to take out surface targets. Its equipped with a 450 kg warhead containing about 100kg of AFX-757 explosive. It has a contact fuse design so that the blast force is lateral. The warhead contains nowhere near enough explosive to make the Shanksville crater... not even close.

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I elaborated a bit on the energy comparison:
100 kg of AFX releases about 500 MJ of energy upon explosion.
A fully loaded B767 travelling at cruising speed according to basic formula E=1/2mv^ carries about 5,000 MJ. If you dissipate this energy over just a few meters of stopping distance, the effect will very much resemble an explosion - explosion of about 10 of the said warheads. That gives us some perspective :-). And this doesn't include the power of a substantial amount of fuel that has been atomised by impact, mixed with air and combusted immediately in explosive manner.
Note, the numbers are VERY approximate and the above is intended to give just a rough idea what we are dealing with here.
 
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yankee451 said:
I explain my case thoroughly in the OP.

You on the other hand demand calculations to arrive at my conclusions, whereas you don't demand the same of your own conclusions. You saw it on television, that's why you believe what you believe. If my conclusions are incorrect, then you can use the same evidence I use to explain how it does not suit my conclusions, and instead, suits yours.

Deferring to some expert that you consider smarter than you, is your prerogative, but ignoring the evidence is not an option.
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And Steven E. Jones proved you wrong in 2008 yet here we are again, ps the reason a water Jet cuts steel is because two physical paritcles can not occupy the same place at the same time. It's a very simple Physics priciple one particle the particle with lower energy Has to give way to the particle with higher energy.
Hardness friction and superheating do to impact forces all play a role.
As I said This was all debunked By Dr.Steven E. Jones in 2008.
Oh yes Jones did give caculations.
I see no reason to continue the discussion in 2020.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
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But this a vast conspiracy - much vaster than a mere 10 to 50 thousand crisis actors. Current estimates put the number of people 'in on it' at ~35 million worldwide, with more joining the conspiracy every day. ...
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You are so limited in your imagination, so feeble, so unbold!

AE911Truth blamed THE GENERAL POPULATION in early 2018:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327881

That's hundreds of millions in the USA alone, billions worldwide!
 
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