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bill smith said:
It's not really up to ypu TAM. That was more between me and Mke wasn't it ?. As I said, If Mike aks me I will clarify. Or I may do so sooner as the mood takes me. For the rest- hound away.
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So why are you purposely not asking the question. This is a public forum. If you wish to ask a question only of one person, then PM them. Otherwise, please answer my question...or are you merely using the "one on one with Mike" thing because you really do not have any proof? I am guessing the latter.

TAM:)
 
bill smith said:
That's not exactly true.You can always comment on the post that started all this if you want. #3821.
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You make my point of linking to rubbish by linking to rubbish. Classic stuff Bill. Did the Isralis catch the ray beam in action too?
 
T.A.M. said:
So why are you purposely not asking the question. This is a public forum. If you wish to ask a question only of one person, then PM them. Otherwise, please answer my question...or are you merely using the "one on one with Mike" thing because you really do not have any proof? I am guessing the latter.

TAM:)
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This is not my usual style TAM but then again I don't usually waste my time defending myself against accusations here. You will know yourself from long experience that there is little point for a Truther to do that here on the jref.
So in this case I did defend myself, but in a way that put Mike completely on the back foot. However there is no special gain for me to explain the details to you at this time because any explanation will be treated in the jref way. Shouting down by weight of numbers is unattractive but can fool the casual observer Better for me to keep it in my armoury for when it might be more useful.
 
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The armory of failed ideas based on lies, hearsay, and dirt dumb delusions. Basically unarmed and evidence free.




7 years, 8 months and 27 days of stupid ideas where the empty armory of 911TruthLies supports the day to day evidence free attack on the truth by truthers spewing nonsensical lies and delusions.
 
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bill smith said:
This is not my usual style TAM but then again I don't usually waste my time defending myself against accusations here. You will know yourself from long experience that there is little point for a Truther to do that here on the jref.
So in this case I did defend myself, but in a way that put Mike completely on the back foot. However there is no special gain for me to explain the details to you at this time because any explanation will be treated in the jref way. Shouting down by weight of numbers is unattractive but can fool the casual observer Better for me to keep it in my armoury for when it might be more useful.
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Code for 'i have nothing except what i've heard from idiots'.
 
bill smith said:
What about this then....?

In this new 9/11 movie at the 1:20:00 mark the FBI make a statement that the 'dancing Israelis' were already filming WTC1 before the first plane arrived
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4874421830690006054&hl=en new movie

And in this clip at the 1:37 mark we have one of the 'dancing Isrealis'' on a talk show in Isreal saying tht they were there to 'document the event'
. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw talk show

So if you put these two things together you can say that the israelis were here to document the events of 9/11 because they knew the exact time and date of at least the first attack IN ADVANCE.
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Failed logic lives as you post the biggest lies and do it without evidence. You post lies and move on to the next idiotic 911 statement you dredge up from your armory at the bottom of the pit of ignorance on 911. Your armory is filled with failed moronic ideas on 911. You are saving them for your next post of nonsense and failed ideas to maintain your standing in the anti-intellectual movement you know is going to break through soon.

You are posting the same failed ideas from 2006 and you have not broken but the record for posting old failed delusions.

Is this all your neoNAZI armory has; delusions and failed ideas on 911?
 
bill smith said:
This is not my usual style TAM but then again I don't usually waste my time defending myself against accusations here. You will know yourself from long experience that there is little point for a Truther to do that here on the jref.
So in this case I did defend myself, but in a way that put Mike completely on the back foot. However there is no special gain for me to explain the details to you at this time because any explanation will be treated in the jref way. Shouting down by weight of numbers is unattractive but can fool the casual observer Better for me to keep it in my armoury for when it might be more useful.
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That is a complete dodge, and you know it. You have been here for quite a while now, and have many hundred posts under your belt. It has never stopped you before, so present it. I will ask others here to be civil. I want to see your evidence, but until you present it, I am considering your statement a lie...I have no other choice with the evidence presented to prove what she said, and a lack of proof on your part to contradict it.

TAM:)
 
bill smith said:
What about this then....?
In this new 9/11 movie at the 1:20:00 mark the FBI make a statement that the 'dancing Israelis' were already filming WTC1 before the first plane arrived
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4874421830690006054&hl=en new movie

And in this clip at the 1:37 mark we have one of the 'dancing Isrealis'' on a talk show in Isreal saying tht they were there to 'document the event'
. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw talk show

So if you put these two things together you can say that the israelis were here to document the events of 9/11 because they knew the exact time and date of at least the first attack IN ADVANCE.
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Its about Bill Smith who arrives at a party very late in the day, posts articles that she has failed to read herself that clearly refutes her own arguement then cowers away sniggering into her mask of deceipt.
 
T.A.M. said:
That is a complete dodge, and you know it. You have been here for quite a while now, and have many hundred posts under your belt. It has never stopped you before, so present it. I will ask others here to be civil. I want to see your evidence, but until you present it, I am considering your statement a lie...I have no other choice with the evidence presented to prove what she said, and a lack of proof on your part to contradict it.

TAM:)
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This is the hounding I take it ? Woof woof.
 
Jackanory said:
Its about Bill Smith who arrives at a party very late in the day, posts articles that she has failed to read herself that clearly refutes her own arguement then cowers away sniggering into her mask of deceipt.
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Jack....Sweetie....I can only refer you to your own signature.
 
AH, so this is what bill is using to claim Maria is wrong?

1. The video, at the 1:20:00 mark makes no claim as you have stated. What it does say, is that Robert Baer, a CIA agent, "has confirmed" that the dancing israeli's were filming before the first tower was struck. They provide no source for the Robert Baer Statement in the video. If such a statement does exist, it is meaningless without having a source that Baer got his information from

2. As for the Israeli's documenting the event, you are speculating what is inferred by "document the event". Your speculation is based on your biased view point. You have no proof otherwise.

3. We have the testimony, via transcript, of the witness that the investigation was based on, and she clearly states SHE SAW THE VAN PARK MINUTES AFTER SHE HAD WATCHED THE TOWERS with smoke coming up from them, hence they had already been struck when the van (carrying the israelis) arrived.

Sorry, you have not proven anything.

TAM:)
 
bill smith said:
Jack....Sweetie....I can only refer you to your own signature.
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your support of the neoNAZI dirt dumb 911 delusions is showing

looks like your armory is empty you will have to reload at the nearest dumbed down truther web site for more failed ideas from the past as we see with your posts the pathetic future of 911TruthLies. You are the failed future.
 
T.A.M. said:
AH, so this is what bill is using to claim Maria is wrong?

1. The video, at the 1:20:00 mark makes no claim as you have stated. What it does say, is that Robert Baer, a CIA agent, "has confirmed" that the dancing israeli's were filming before the first tower was struck. They provide no source for the Robert Baer Statement in the video. If such a statement does exist, it is meaningless without having a source that Baer got his information from

2. As for the Israeli's documenting the event, you are speculating what is inferred by "document the event". Your speculation is based on your biased view point. You have no proof otherwise.

3. We have the testimony, via transcript, of the witness that the investigation was based on, and she clearly states SHE SAW THE VAN PARK MINUTES AFTER SHE HAD WATCHED THE TOWERS with smoke coming up from them, hence they had already been struck when the van (carrying the israelis) arrived.

Sorry, you have not proven anything.

TAM:)
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No ?...well maybe we can look at it another time.
 
bill smith said:
No ?...well maybe we can look at it another time.
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Well that is up to you. Until you answer my question about Maria's testimony, though, I am assuming you have no evidence, and that you were grand standing, and bluffing. You could easily put this to rest, but I doubt you will, since it would mean admitting you are wrong...better to sneak away and avoid the question...right?

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
Well that is up to you. Until you answer my question about Maria's testimony, though, I am assuming you have no evidence, and that you were grand standing, and bluffing. You could easily put this to rest, but I doubt you will, since it would mean admitting you are wrong...better to sneak away and avoid the question...right?

TAM:)
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Yes TAM. Until a more propitious time as I said arlier.
 
So we heard the CIA agent plainly say that the 'dancing Isrealis' were set up with cameras running and trained on WTC1 before the arrival of the first plane. Then later we heard the 'dancing Israeli' on the talkshow in Israel saying that they 'were there to document the event'. So did the isrealis clearly know about the 9/11 attacks in advance or not ? If not, who is lying and why ?
 
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bill smith said:
So we heard the CIA agent plainly say that the 'dancing Isrealis' were set up with cameras running and trained on WTC1 before the arrival of the first plane. Then later we heard the 'dancing Israeli' on the talkshow in Israel saying that they 'were there to document the event'. So did the isrealis clearly know about the 9/11 attacks in advance or not ? If not, who is lying and why ?
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If you say so Bill:o

And the FBI did what about it Bill?
 
bill smith said:
So we heard the CIA agent plainly say that the 'dancing Isrealis' were set up with cameras running and trained on WTC1 before the arrival of the first plane. Then later we heard the 'dancing Israeli' on the talkshow in Israel saying that they 'were there to document the event'. So did the isrealis clearly know about the 9/11 attacks in advance or not ? If not, who is lying and why ?
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No, if you are referring to the video you linked to, we did not hear anything from the CIA agent himself. The Narrator states that Baer confirmed that the Israeli's were there before the first tower was hit. They do not provide a source for this statement, nor do they state that they got this information from their own private interview with Baer, so we are suppose to just take their word for it??? Not gonna happen.

Your other questions are good ones, which is why Maria's testimony that she saw the van park after the towers were hit, is so damning to your entire line of proposition...which is why I am waiting for you to produce that evidence that she did not state what the 20/20 interview says she did.

TAM:)
 
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