Merged 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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Bobert said:
Please dont give me the drivel about govenment employees afraid to come forward,
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Well government and military people are afriad to come forward abot 9/11 becasue they may get punished.

The Army even stated this.
Army: Doubting Official 9/11 Story Is ‘Disloyal To The United States’
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But there is a lot of first responders who are demanding a new investigation along with many experts.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Well government and military people are afriad to come forward abot 9/11 becasue they may get punished.

The Army even stated this.


But there is a lot of first responders who are demanding a new investigation along with many experts.
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Pure junk! No one is afraid to come forward on 9/11 issues. You believe in fantasy ideas on 9/11 with zero evidence to back your flawed claims, there are zero people afraid to come forward, just a few so far and you in the government with false ideas on 9/11.

Please list your first responders who support your failed ideas. You just talk, do you ever produce evidence for your ideas?

Please list your evidence to support your failed ideas. You don't have any, I keep reminding you of this, you keep avoiding the truth.
 
Funny how the truthers will cite government employees when it supports their terrorist hugging agenda.
 
beachnut said:
[Please list your first responders who support your failed ideas.
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Here is 1 video of first repsonders wanting a new investigation, i have more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC3YlKERdg8


You just talk, do you ever produce evidence for your ideas?
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Well for 1 i have been posting evidence, the believers like you are just ignoring it.

I have been waiting for 7 years for the believers to post any evidence to support the official story but all i ever see is opinions or just repeats of what the media tells them.
 
Bobert said:
Funny how the truthers will cite government employees when it supports their terrorist hugging agenda.
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Funny how beleivers have no one to cite to support the official story. They only repeat what the media has told them.
 
"Well government and military people are afriad to come forward abot 9/11 becasue they may get punished."


A perfect example of what is officially referred to as MAKING ***** UP.

If you have no facts, just make ***** up.

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ULTIMA1 said:
Funny how beleivers have no one to cite to support the official story. They only repeat what the media has told them.
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Use some logic. You work for the NSA; that is the government! You can't stop making up false information on 9/11, everyone on the internet know where you live and the US government will not do anything to you! So NOT ONE SINGLE person is afraid of the government, since you are spewing false information and you have not been punished! You need help understanding what you say is not evidence of anything on 9/11. Your post is false for you! And not one rational person is afraid to come forward, 9/11 was solved about 7 years ago as evidence was uncovered showing 19 terrorist, who you are trying to apologize for, executed 9/11.

Your ideas are all made up; unable to produce evidence 9/11 truth is stuck with false junk.

ULTIMA1 said:
Funny how beleivers have no one to cite to support the official story. They only repeat what the media has told them.
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What are beleivers anyway? You need to read the top of the page to get a clue you fell into a nest of individual thinkers and you are not conforming. (I don't get it either, but then…)
The FDR from Flight 93 shows the terrorist flew the jet into the ground making your quest for shoot down (wrong for 7 years) shot down. The FDR is solid evidence you have nothing! Good luck at the NSA, looks like you are not afraid because you have no evidence. Why are you unable to see evidence? Because you have no evidence? Why do you try so hard to apologize for terrorist by making up false ideas on 9/11? Can't explain that either, can you?
 
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Hokulele said:
I think the sports discussion here has served a very beneficial purpose. Several of the CTists rarely venture outside this sub-forum, and all of the comments on the sports topic(s) have been positive so far. If this thread can get people on both sides of the conspiracy aisle (so to speak) discussing something, anything, in a civil manner, there is a chance that the civility might spill over into the other threads.

OK, fine. Call me an incurable optimist.
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RedIbis said:
Now that's raising the level of discourse in the forum.
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Yeah, I guess I was expecting too much from some of the members here. :(
 
beachnut said:
So NOT ONE SINGLE person is afraid of the government, since you are spewing false information and you have not been punished!
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Evidence that military people are punished for speaking out.

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarti...ricon.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=426&z=54
Under Fire! U.S. Army Intelligence Analyst Targeted For Suggesting New Independent 9/11 Investigation.

Quote from the Army,
Army: Doubting Official 9/11 Story Is ‘Disloyal To The United States’

The FDR is solid evidence you have nothing! Good luck at the NSA, looks like you are not afraid because you have no evidence.
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What media fantasy are you going to beleive in when i post the NSA documents about Flight 93that they stated they had?
 
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Hokulele said:
Yeah, I guess I was expecting too much from some of the members here. :(
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You know, speaking as someone who thinks troother trash as trash, but still:

This whole thread only seems to actually perpetuate all the problems of the 9/11 CT subforum. The whole thread has become nothing more than a venting and gigantic trolling effort -- and not from troothers, either. Really, at a time when the existence of this subforum as a seperate one has been questioned, to have had this thread made in the form it is seems to me to be a huge error.

I repeat, I have no time for 9/11 CT's; but I do see several people very obviously using debunking as an Ego Thang, not as genuine debunking; and I see a thread devoted to bugger all except self-praise, anger, tribalism and, well, trolling, and it really isn't a great idea at all at the present time, nor any kind of persuasion not to close down the 9/11 CT subforum. All IMvHO, of course.
 
Hokulele said:
I know. That wasn't my point.
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Well I certainly agree with your post that random off topic comments can make people realize that we might have other things in common, such as sports or opinions on other current events.

I just think it's funny to see all of these threads in this forum, as well as the forum community in which people complain about how bad the level of discourse is, and then watch this thread become just another place to demonize the twoofy twoofers.
 
Gurdur said:
You know, speaking as someone who thinks troother trash as trash, but still:

This whole thread only seems to actually perpetuate all the problems of the 9/11 CT subforum. The whole thread has become nothing more than a venting and gigantic trolling effort -- and not from troothers, either. Really, at a time when the existence of this subforum as a seperate one has been questioned, to have had this thread made in the form it is seems to me to be a huge error.
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Well, the whole point of this thread was to be random, but I agree, I don't think it was intended to be a trolling effort, although it seems to be headed that way. I completely disagree that it is a huge error. If the venting and random comments can be constrained to a single thread, it greatly reduces the general signal-to-noise ratio in the sub-forum in general. If someone simply wants to point out a video, comment from elsewhere, what have you, they do not need to start a whole thread about it. If people then want to discuss (or bicker), they can. It makes it much easier for those who want to avoid the trivia to avoid it, and those who wish to wallow in it (yep, I include myself in that category), know where to find it.

I repeat, I have no time for 9/11 CT's; but I do see several people very obviously using debunking as an Ego Thang, not as genuine debunking; and I see a thread devoted to bugger all except self-praise, anger, tribalism and, well, trolling, and it really isn't a great idea at all at the present time, nor any kind of persuasion not to close down the 9/11 CT subforum. All IMvHO, of course.
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Sure, some people use it as an ego boost, some to learn something new, some to brush up on their rusty math and physics, and some to merely be a pest. A number of us use it for all of the above reasons. Whether it was intended or not, this area is just as much of a community as the Community section, and all types of characters will add flavor to such. For some such as yourself, that will be a negative. For others, it is seen as a positive thing. Who is correct? *Shrug*

Whether or not threads such as this will hasten the demise of the 9/11 CT sub-forum remains to be seen, as that is in the hands of the JREF, not the forum members. I simply feel that they do have their place and their worth, and it is up to the participants to prove that. My post was an attempt to present that fact and encourage it, but apparently I need to work on my communication skills. Ah well.
 
This idea that people are quiet about the "truth" about 9/11 because they will be punished is ridiculous and juvenile...I do not care if "the army" said it.

I now declare in public, that anyone who is afraid to come forward about the murder of 3000 innocent civilians by the USG because they might lose their job, or be "punished" is a coward...A COWARD!!!

3000 people were murdered, and you are keeping the "truth" to yourself for fear of losing your job??? fear of "punishment"? weak, weak, weak!!!

TAM:)
 
I have my own tales of personal experiences with 9/11 CTers. Oddly enough, there was one guy I expected to be a 9/11 CTer who was not. This guy was your full on cliche internet/computer geek paranoid warez-downloading weed-smoking Conspiracy Nut. He'd buy survival gear and talk about the day it all went bad. Man. He believed every conspiracy theory imaginable.

But not 9/11. Go figure. The one time it ever came up in his presence, he rolled his eyes and said the theories were "stupid".

Oddly enough, this guy was insane - I found out a couple of weeks ago he got arrested and committed to a mental health institute after breaking into a store and being caught on security footage screaming at the cameras to stop spying on him.

So there you go... 9/11 CTs are even too crazy for an actual crazy person.
 
T.A.M. said:
This idea that people are quiet about the "truth" about 9/11 because they will be punished is ridiculous and juvenile...I do not care if "the army" said it.

I now declare in public, that anyone who is afraid to come forward about the murder of 3000 innocent civilians by the USG because they might lose their job, or be "punished" is a coward...A COWARD!!!

3000 people were murdered, and you are keeping the "truth" to yourself for fear of losing your job??? fear of "punishment"? weak, weak, weak!!!

TAM:)
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That's easy for you to say hiding safe, snug and secure in your igloo up in Canadialand where the NWO dare not venture due to your legions of armoured Polar Bears.
 
gumboot said:
That's easy for you to say hiding safe, snug and secure in your igloo up in Canadialand where the NWO dare not venture due to your legions of armoured Polar Bears.
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Wait a minute, I thought he was a NWO physician. At least that's what the Pacific Command told me when they ordered me to go to him for my annual physical. Nice guy and I passed with flying colors, though I don't quite understand the need to have me anesthetized during the exam.
 
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