Merged 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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bill smith said:
Moving on...does anybody remember Bush in the school ? Do you think that was an accident ?
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No, I'm pretty sure he was scheduled to be there.

What about Rumsfeld saying that a missile had hit the Pentagon a month after 9/11 ?
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mis·sile
n.

  1. An object or weapon that is fired, thrown, dropped, or otherwise projected at a target; a projectile.
  2. A guided missile.
  3. A ballistic missile.
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Not the best application of the word, but it fits well enough.

Or Rumsfeld again saying that flight 93 had been shot down ? All mistakes I suppose ?
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I'm sure they're quite flattered by your belief in their infallibility. Unfortunately, it's merely an arbitrarily high bar than many people sharing your mental state set in order to guarantee that a fellow human does something "suspicious".
 
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bill smith said:
What about Bush at the UN in November of 2001 saying 'Let us not believe any ridiculous conspiracy theories....' This was before there WERE any worth speaking of. ?
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Incorrect. For example, I remember hearing about the alleged "stand-down order" less than a week after 9/11. I even brought it up at dinner at a friend's house the following weekend. I remember it vividly, because it was the same day that we stood outside before I left to chat some more, and I purposefully looked up at the "empty" sky...
 
bill smith said:
What about Bush at the UN in November of 2001 saying 'Let us not believe any ridiculous conspiracy theories....' This was before there WERE any worth speaking of. ?
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And therefore he made them all up? Assuming that you're right about the date he said this, did you ever think that maybe it was a preemptive thing? Whack jobs are always coming up with conspiracy theories.

I will forever wonder how you people became so deluded.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Incorrect. For example, I remember hearing about the alleged "stand-down order" less than a week after 9/11. I even brought it up at dinner at a friend's house the following weekend. I remember it vividly, because it was the same day that we stood outside before I left to chat some more, and I purposefully looked up at the "empty" sky...
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I heard the "4000 jews didn't go to work" in the first week for sure. I'm not certain, but I thought I even heard it the very same day of the event. I always felt that was where it all started. It's a great launching point for "woah, wait, someone knew!!!!!!!1111one"
 
dtugg said:
And therefore he made them all up? Assuming that you're right about the date he said this, did you ever think that maybe it was a preemptive thing? Whack jobs are always coming up with conspiracy theories.

I will forever wonder how you people became so deluded.
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They were very heavy handed in the laying of clues. And why ? Because they absolutely had to generate the image of a '9/11 conspiracy theorist' as quickly as possible before any credible people could come out with questions. If that had hapened before the template was laid down then they might be taken seriously. Afterards ? They could be associated immediately with 'conspiracy theorists' Elvis and Bigfoot long with the faked Moon landings and the JFK conspiracy. Not only that- the potential whistleblowers themselves would then be very reluctant to come forward for fear of being branded.
Of course the media was there to beat the conspiracy theory drum of ridicule. Do you guys recognise the Bigfoot and Elvis thing in your own technique ? Of course you do. You have been playing the fish game.
http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
 
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bill smith said:
They were very heavy handed in the laying of clues. And why ? Because they absolutely had to generate the image of a '9/11 conspiracy theorist' as qickly as possible before any credible people could come out with questions.
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I sincerely hope you are not serious. Wow. Can't you see how far you are going to make this all work? Really??
 
bill smith said:
They were very heavy handed in the laying of clues. And why ? Because they absolutely had to generate the image of a '9/11 conspiracy theorist' as qickly as possible before any credible people could come out with questions. If that had hapened before the template was laid down then they might be taken seriously. Afterards ? They could be associated immediately with 'conspiracy theorists' Elvis and Bigfoot long with the faked Moon landings and the JFK conspiracy. Not only that- the potential whistleblowers themselves would then be very reluctant to come forard for fear of being branded.
Of course the media was there to beat the conspiracy theory drum of ridicule. Do you guys recognise the Bigfoot and Elvis thing in your own technique ? Of course you do. You have been playing the fish game.
http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
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Again, I will always wonder how you guys got so deluded.
 
bill smith said:
They were very heavy handed in the laying of clues. And why ? Because they absolutely had to generate the image of a '9/11 conspiracy theorist' as quickly as possible before any credible people could come out with questions. If that had hapened before the template was laid down then they might be taken seriously. Afterards ? They could be associated immediately with 'conspiracy theorists' Elvis and Bigfoot long with the faked Moon landings and the JFK conspiracy. Not only that- the potential whistleblowers themselves would then be very reluctant to come forward for fear of being branded.
Of course the media was there to beat the conspiracy theory drum of ridicule. Do you guys recognise the Bigfoot and Elvis thing in your own technique ? Of course you do. You have been playing the fish game.
http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
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Since this seems to be the essay part of the exam, I'll post this.

"Why do I bother with these morons? [the Truth Movement] Because
they are destroying the movements which some of us have spent a
long time trying to build. Those of us who believe that the
crucial global issues - climate change, the Iraq war, nuclear
proliferation, inequality - are insufficiently debated in
parliament or congress; that corporate power stands too heavily on
democracy; that war criminals, cheats and liars are not being held
to account, have invested our efforts in movements outside the
mainstream political process. These, we are now discovering, are
peculiarly susceptible to this epidemic of gibberish.

The obvious corollary to the belief that the Bush administration
is all-powerful is that the rest of us are completely
powerless. In fact it seems to me that the purpose of the "9/11
truth movement" is to be powerless. The omnipotence of the Bush
regime is the coward's fantasy, an excuse for inaction used by
those who don't have the stomach to engage in real political
fights."

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bill smith said:
They were very heavy handed in the laying of clues. And why ? Because they absolutely had to generate the image of a '9/11 conspiracy theorist' as quickly as possible before any credible people could come out with questions. If that had hapened before the template was laid down then they might be taken seriously. Afterards ? They could be associated immediately with 'conspiracy theorists' Elvis and Bigfoot long with the faked Moon landings and the JFK conspiracy. Not only that- the potential whistleblowers themselves would then be very reluctant to come forward for fear of being branded.
Of course the media was there to beat the conspiracy theory drum of ridicule. Do you guys recognise the Bigfoot and Elvis thing in your own technique ? Of course you do. You have been playing the fish game.
http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
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What a gigantic amount of paranoia it takes to envision, let alone believe such a thing.

TAM:)
 
bill smith said:
They were very heavy handed in the laying of clues. And why ? Because they absolutely had to generate the image of a '9/11 conspiracy theorist' as quickly as possible before any credible people could come out with questions.
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And you've been going right along with it this whole time. Oops.

9/11 Truth is an Inside Job!
 
bill smith said:
You guys have to make yur own call on this. But please do think about it little.
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I'm curious as to what information you believe you've presented that can act as any kind of solid foundation for rational, logical thought regarding your belief that the 9/11 Truth Movement is a creation of the U.S. government.

As it is, you're essentially asking us to use our imagination.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I'm curious as to what information you believe you've presented that can act as any kind of solid foundation for rational, logical thought regarding your belief that the 9/11 Truth Movement is a creation of the U.S. government.

As it is, you're essentially asking us to use our imagination.
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The conspiracy theories would have come nyway so they had nothing to lose by bringing them forward and they had everything to gain. Personally I think they thought the school thing and a few media reports would be enough. But people were mostly so shocked by the attacks that they were not thinkng straight and didn't pick up on the clues. Then they tried Rumsfeld in the Pentagon missle thing and finally in desperation, Bush at the UN. It was actually 2003 before the heavy duty populist conspiracy theories got going around the time of Charlie Sheen.
 
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
I'm curious as to what information you believe you've presented that can act as any kind of solid foundation for rational, logical thought regarding your belief that the 9/11 Truth Movement is a creation of the U.S. government.

As it is, you're essentially asking us to use our imagination.
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The 911 Truth Lies Movement was founded on DIY ignorance. No government help needed to make them look like nut cases.
 
I think I get it. They created conspiracy theories so that when twoofers tumbled upon the real conspiracy theory, they could say, "Look, another bunch of kooks." Right?


:eye-poppi
 
bill smith said:
G'Night boys.

Before I lay my head down here's another big fat clue on 9/11. What else could it be ?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SMK5bmdAEHc The Doomsday Plane
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With the hyperbole and fantasy removed, true. So what?

Of course the plane was launched on 9/11. We don't have it just to sit on the ground. We were under attack and until later in the day we didn't know what else was coming at us. It was prudent and it was what we pay our taxes for.
 
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