9/11 Commission records unsealed

[MikeW]

Some people will be happy to hear this:

The [American Airlines] SOC personnel stated that the track on AAL 77 continued to head west on the ASD after known impact time at the Pentagon.
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00017.pdf

 

[lapman]

Interesting note is made in the FBi report of Atta's Luggage, that the passenger service representative for AA11 called the ramp crew to ask if Atta's two suitcases (the two that were left behind) had been put aboard the aircraft. It was stated that this was an unusual occurrence, unless the passenger effected asked about the luggage.

http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00038.pdf

TAM

What is also interesting is that the baggage was not left behind by Atta, but were late in transferring from the US Airways flight and were supposed to go out on AA 181.

 

[T.A.M.]

exactly. Atta did not "purposely leave behind" his bags as the truthers claim, but rather they were late in getting onboard the plane. And as you say, they were even placed aboard an alternate flight so he could retrieve them in LA, but the attacks changed this.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Some people will be happy to hear this:

Yes I am sure Egg and Waldo are fair near having an orgasm over that little "Sliverstein" moment. Of course, will they dare to find out if may, perhaps, oh i dunno, that the time on the ATC contol was oh, I dunno, different from the time piece used for the "official" time. you know, or some LOGICAL, SANE explanation for it?

Stupid dumb FBI NWO asswipes, revealing more secrets of the grand plan, and releasing it to the supersmart investigooglers.

TAM

 

[lapman]

Unfortunately, the twoofers will quote Herbert Hortman to death while ignoring everything else.

 

[Bell]

Yes I am sure Egg and Waldo are fair near having an orgasm over that little "Sliverstein" moment. Of course, will they dare to find out if may, perhaps, oh i dunno, that the time on the ATC contol was oh, I dunno, different from the time piece used for the "official" time. you know, or some LOGICAL, SANE explanation for it?

Stupid dumb FBI NWO asswipes, revealing more secrets of the grand plan, and releasing it to the supersmart investigooglers.

TAM

And they had only, what, like seven years to CHANGE all this released documents. If I where the NWO agent responsible for this, I'd now be on the lookout for NWO Kitty

 

[NobbyNobbs]

sub-humans ?

nazi

Wow. Godwinned in the first page....

wow this place got even worse meanwhile.

the Nazis loved the term subhumans.......

...twice.

 

[dudalb]

exactly. Atta did not "purposely leave behind" his bags as the truthers claim, but rather they were late in getting onboard the plane. And as you say, they were even placed aboard an alternate flight so he could retrieve them in LA, but the attacks changed this.

TAM

And Twoofers treat this, which as anybody who flies regulary knows is a pretty damn common mishap, as some great mysterious and sinister anomaly.
Boy, could I tell you misplaced luggage horror stories.

 

[MikeW]

Janet Riffe provides a little more information on that report that a passenger was shot, as opposed to stabbed, on AA11.

 

[twinstead]

Every time I see the title of this thread I think of a video camera, a beach, and "9/11 Commission records GONE WILD!"

Must just be me.

 

[MikeW]

This useful NEADS briefing includes interesting details about the NEADS mission, and antiquated radar systems. They also gave a presentation about Flight 93, though even Marr admits the times are a little odd.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Unfortunately, the twoofers will quote Herbert Hortman to death while ignoring everything else.

You mean Misquote. They will sayd that:

Mr. Hortman stated to the interviewing staffer that it was his opinion as an experienced commercial pilot, that none of the hijackers would have been able to successfully carry out the attacks of 09/11/2001.

totally ignoring the following part:

without having first flown an aircraft in the airspace of New York City or Washington, DC.

 

[~enigma~]

Every time I see the title of this thread I think of a video camera, a beach, and "9/11 Commission records GONE WILD!"

Must just be me.

I'll send you the Mann Coulter video

 

[MikeW]

The Commission did pay attention to truthers! A Tony Hollick called them, they did a phone interview, and he said a) the WTC was blown up in a plot masterminded by John Ashcroft, b) the Pentagon was hit by a Global Hawk/ F-16, and c) John O'Neal was involved in the WTC plot (though carelessly forgot, presumably, and died in the collapse).

 

[JamesB]

And that didn't make the final report? If that isn't proof of a coverup, I don't know what is!

 

[MikeW]

This small document adds a few extra details to the put options story, specifically with regard to some of the profits remaining unclaimed.

 

[MikeW]

And that didn't make the final report? If that isn't proof of a coverup, I don't know what is!

Well, at least they published his phone number in the report. Guess truther details don't get those little redacted boxes.

 

[stateofgrace]

The Commission did pay attention to truthers! A Tony Hollick called them, they did a phone interview, and he said a) the WTC was blown up in a plot masterminded by John Ashcroft, b) the Pentagon was hit by a Global Hawk/ F-16, and c) John O'Neal was involved in the WTC plot (though carelessly forgot, presumably, and died in the collapse).

Maybe it's just me but I just get this picture of the Mr Cordero, who typed this one up, chuckling away to himself, as he did so.

 

[Bell]

You mean Misquote. They will sayd that:

totally ignoring the following part:

I can't precisely tell what I am reading in that quote:

Mr. Hortman stated to the interviewing staffer that it was his opinion as an experienced commercial pilot, that none of the hijackers would have been able to successfully carry out the attacks of 09/1112001 without having first flown an aircraft in the airspace of New York City or Washington, DC. Mr. Hortman said that merely training in a simulator with a tape or digital presentation of the greater Washington or New York City region would be insufficient. Mr. Hortman is convinced that all the hijacker pilots would have had to actually fly an aircraft in the New York City and Washington, DC areas.

Is he saying that the hijackers COULD have carried out the attacks once they had flown into the NY/DC airspace?

Or that they COULDN'T have carried out the attacks since the hijackers never trained in flying in the NY/DC airspace irl?

 

[MikeW]

Liz Glick tells the Commission about errors in some media stories covering a phone conversation between her & husband Jeremy.