Split Thread 7WTC - controlled demolition or fire and damage induced collapse?

[ozeco41]

Sorry, not much of a contribution. Just a snapshot of how this thread looks to be going.

A brilliantly appropriate analogy.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I really don’t understand you. 9/11 was an AQ operation. All the hijackers were AQ. I will grant Israelis intelligence knew of the coming attack and even documented the event in NJ (see dancing Israelis). Also the Israelis activated the anthrax attacks planned as early as April 24, 1997 to create a climate of fear over weapons of mass destruction. The Israelis took advantage of 9/11; they did not orchestrate it.

Question: why did WTC1/2/7 come down?

- planes
- controlled demolition

Well?

 

[MaGZ]

Question: why did WTC1/2/7 come down?

- planes
- controlled demolition

Well?

WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed because of the impact of the AQ hijacked planes. The weight on the upper floors caused the pancake effect.
WTC 7 was a control demolition. There is plenty of video evidence to indicate this happened. The building was pulled to prevent it from collapsing on its own in a southwest direction. WTC 7 was severely damaged on its southwest corner when WTC 1 collapsed. It was necessary to pull WTC 7 into it own footprint to insure the ongoing search and rescue at Ground Zero.

The collapse of the three buildings had nothing to do with the Jews.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

WTC 7 was a control demolition. There is plenty of video evidence to indicate this happened. The building was pulled to prevent it from collapsing on its own in a southwest direction. WTC 7 was severely damaged on its southwest corner when WTC 1 collapsed. It was necessary to pull WTC 7 into it own footprint to insure the ongoing search and rescue at Ground Zero.

Then where is the audio evidence that WTC7 was a CD? Where are all the sounds of a CD in the videos?? Why does photographic proof show that WTC7 didn't fall into it's own footprint???

Answer the questions please & don't dodge them! You dodge them, then it makes you look like a liar!

 

[332nd]

Then where is the audio evidence that WTC7 was a CD? Where are all the sounds of a CD in the videos?? Why does photographic proof show that WTC7 didn't fall into it's own footprint???

Answer the questions please & don't dodge them! You dodge them, then it makes you look like a liar!

Aside from the above questions, why lie about it?

Rigging a 47 storey burning building with explosives in a few hours is one helluva trick. They crew would've gotten medals.

 

[9/11-investigator]

WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed because of the impact of the AQ hijacked planes. The weight on the upper floors caused the pancake effect.
WTC 7 was a control demolition. There is plenty of video evidence to indicate this happened. The building was pulled to prevent it from collapsing on its own in a southwest direction. WTC 7 was severely damaged on its southwest corner when WTC 1 collapsed. It was necessary to pull WTC 7 into it own footprint to insure the ongoing search and rescue at Ground Zero.

The collapse of the three buildings had nothing to do with the Jews.

Why then the secrecy about the demolition of WTC7??!! Silverstein retracted his 'we decided to pull' statement! If safety concerns were crucial why not be open about it? Even the 9/11 commission report says nothing about WTC7. And why goes NIST at great lengths to come up with this silly thermal expansion theory while in reality the building was demolished for 'safety concerns'? And do you really think that the demolition of WTC7 could be decided upon, planned, prepared and executed in a matter of 7 hours? Come on! They need to assemble demolition professionals, make a plan, order demolition material and devices. That takes weeks, not hours.

I agree with more than 1000 architects and engineers that all 3 buildings were demolished intentionally. And that puts the Arab Conspiracy Theory out of business. Did not happen.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Then where is the audio evidence that WTC7 was a CD?

Even NIST (finally) admitted that the building came down with free fall speed.

QED.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Aside from the above questions, why lie about it?

Rigging a 47 storey burning building with explosives in a few hours is one helluva trick. They crew would've gotten medals.

Exactly.

 

[Thunder]

Silverstein retracted his 'we decided to pull' statement!

He never said "WE decided to pull".

He said "THEY decided to pull".

if you are going to accuse someone of mass murder, at least have the intellectual honesty to quote them correctly.

 

[9/11-investigator]

He never said "WE decided to pull".

He said "THEY decided to pull".

if you are going to accuse someone of mass murder, at least have the intellectual honesty to quote them correctly.

Fine with me.

Yawn.

 

[Oystein]

Even NIST (finally) admitted that the building came down with free fall speed.

QED.

So very wrong.

 

[T.A.M.]

WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed because of the impact of the AQ hijacked planes. The weight on the upper floors caused the pancake effect.
WTC 7 was a control demolition. There is plenty of video evidence to indicate this happened. The building was pulled to prevent it from collapsing on its own in a southwest direction. WTC 7 was severely damaged on its southwest corner when WTC 1 collapsed. It was necessary to pull WTC 7 into it own footprint to insure the ongoing search and rescue at Ground Zero.

The collapse of the three buildings had nothing to do with the Jews.

Wait, I thought you were pushing the "Missile" theory? That gone now?

TAM

 

[9/11-investigator]

So very wrong.

Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&feature=related

 

[JackDaniels]

WTC 7 was a control demolition. There is plenty of video evidence to indicate this happened. The building was pulled ....

You misspelled "demolished".

 

[Oystein]

Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&feature=related

Youtube? Is that where you learned everything you know?
I thought you are smart.
I think you'd be smarter if you'd link me to the NIST citation that talks about a building falling at freefall speed.
Which, of course, you can't. They wrote no such thing.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Youtube? Is that where you learned everything you know?
I thought you are smart.
I think you'd be smarter if you'd link me to the NIST citation that talks about a building falling at freefall speed.
Which, of course, you can't. They wrote no such thing.

According to Oystein's 'logic' the proof of the Pythagoras theorem becomes invalid once it is displayed on youtube.

They did write it, in the final report, fig. 3-15, 'stage 2'; see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&feature=related

time: 9:29

Youtube alert!

 

[MaGZ]

Why then the secrecy about the demolition of WTC7??!! Silverstein retracted his 'we decided to pull' statement! If safety concerns were crucial why not be open about it? Even the 9/11 commission report says nothing about WTC7. And why goes NIST at great lengths to come up with this silly thermal expansion theory while in reality the building was demolished for 'safety concerns'? And do you really think that the demolition of WTC7 could be decided upon, planned, prepared and executed in a matter of 7 hours? Come on! They need to assemble demolition professionals, make a plan, order demolition material and devices. That takes weeks, not hours.

I agree with more than 1000 architects and engineers that all 3 buildings were demolished intentionally. And that puts the Arab Conspiracy Theory out of business. Did not happen.

Silverstein was approached by the fire department and told they had to pull the building. He agreed, he just erroneously indicated it was his decision when he did the PBS interview.

They had to hide the fact they pulled WTC 7 because they wanted to avoid what we have now, people speculating that WTC 1 and WTC 2 was also a controled demolition.

It only took a few columns to be taken out for the building to collapse. The official report said that only one column failed and the building collapsed.

There are several videos telling people to back up because “they are going to blow up the building.”

 

[MaGZ]

Wait, I thought you were pushing the "Missile" theory? That gone now?

TAM

No. The missile started fires in WTC 7 and setoff the explosion that Jennings and Hess experienced in the stairwell at 9:03. The missile nor the fires had anything to do with the collapse of WTC7.

 

[Oystein]

According to Oystein's 'logic' the proof of the Pythagoras theorem becomes invalid once it is displayed on youtube.

They did write it, in the final report, fig. 3-15, 'stage 2'; see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&feature=related

time: 9:29

Youtube alert!

Could you write down the caption of fig.3-15, and compare with the claim you made in post 192? Thank you

(If you do this proiperly, you will see that you were very wrong)

ETA: Your comparison has it backwards: Correct would be: the Pythagoras theorem does not become invalid once it is displayed wrongly on youtube and declared false.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Silverstein was approached by the fire department and told they had to pull the building. He agreed, he just erroneously indicated it was his decision when he did the PBS interview.

They had to hide the fact they pulled WTC 7 because they wanted to avoid what we have now, people speculating that WTC 1 and WTC 2 was also a controled demolition.

It only took a few columns to be taken out for the building to collapse. The official report said that only one column failed and the building collapsed.

There are several videos telling people to back up because “they are going to blow up the building.”

Huh, and where does NIST fit in??!!
Why did they come up with weird thories about thermal expansion (I believe the phrase was)??!!
Are you saying that Silverstein had forgotten to give NIST a phone call about what was the real reason for the collapse? That the building was 'pulled'?
And what architect designs a building that will collapse if only 1 column fails!?

Come on now.