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'6th Sense'

If you watch close enough, most of those people were bobbing from the start anyways, they really were not sensing anything. and they intiate their movement before the test begins, or boefore the grandmaster makes the attempt to strike putting his intention.
If i stand behind you with a sword, and you sit there, then roll, but i do not attempt to strike or even think of striking, then did i give you the test?...
Part of the test is also the individual giving it. if you can't project your intention then you can't acuraterly give the test. knowing he has not yet attempted to project his intent and not having an attempt to strike, -he knows the person did not pass.

If this ability IS fake, then dont you think he would've just passed him then-if it looked like he passed?
 
N1nja said:
If you watch close enough, most of those people were bobbing from the start anyways, they really were not sensing anything. and they intiate their movement before the test begins, or boefore the grandmaster makes the attempt to strike putting his intention.
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Emphasis mine.

But so were several of the students who eventually passed. The only person I saw who didn't have a false start before passing on a second try was the woman, but the master definately had a major weight shift in her case.

Technically, if the test is about being able to feel the intention or whatever, anyone who flinches or has a false start should automatically fail. There shouldn't be second or third tries because they aren't feeling anything, they're just guessing.*

ETA Especially if what you say here has any relevance:

Part of the test is also the individual giving it. if you can't project your intention then you can't acuraterly give the test. knowing he has not yet attempted to project his intent and not having an attempt to strike, -he knows the person did not pass.
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If this were so, then why did he give people second and third chances, even when he had not tried to strike? If he already knows the person didn't pass because he had yet to *project* his intentions, why did he continue the test?
 
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ok, i'de like to share a few stories now....
(real events that actually took place)

one of the Japanese masters a long time ago had a very good friend and american student who was a green beret, he was going to argentina or panama?...to train the army in self-defense. He asked this teacher to come with them to this country to teach them how to fight. This Japanese teacher was going to go, he wanted to go, but that night he went home and had a vision in his head that told him "DANGER" he felt ill and decided not to go. his green beret friend went, and on the way the plane crashed and everyone on it died.

I was in the Air Force for 8 years, (Security Forces) i recently got out in Feb. this year.
My last duty assignment was in Germany. One night at a bar i was sitting down with some friends laughing (drunk of course) and suddenly i stopped, shot my hand up in the air behind me and struck a glass that someone threw at my head, it fell straight to the floor at shattered. (the bar was noisy, music playing, i was laughing at the time with some friends, looking at them not paying attention to my suroundings and this happened with absolutely no indication whatsoever. I guy from behind me at another table was drunk and stupid and threw a glass (a thick german glass) at the back of my head.
I did sense there was something wrong, and my body reacted naturally from my training.

While in Iraq (This occured in December of 2004) I was in mosul we had just landed doing aircraft security from Qatar, i was in the chow hall eating with my partner and felt something strange, i told him we needed to go now, and i made him leave with me and we went back to our plane. by the time we got back to the flight line the chow hall blew up. someone had snuck pieces of explosives on base over a long period of time and put a bomb together in the chow hall....

so did i just get lucky? or is it safe to admit there is more to it than we know?
 
N1nja said:
ok, i'de like to share a few stories now....
(real events that actually took place)
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or is it safe to admit there is more to it than we know?
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It is safe to admit that your stories are much more likely (much, much, much ...) to be more fiction than fact
 
N1nja said:
ok, i'de like to share a few stories now....
(real events that actually took place)
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As opposed to stuff made up on the internet? Uh yeah...
one of the Japanese masters a long time ago had a very good friend and american student who was a green beret, he was going to argentina or panama?...to train the army in self-defense. He asked this teacher to come with them to this country to teach them how to fight. This Japanese teacher was going to go, he wanted to go, but that night he went home and had a vision in his head that told him "DANGER" he felt ill and decided not to go. his green beret friend went, and on the way the plane crashed and everyone on it died.
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And if he got on the plane, you wouldn't have a story to tell.
And if the plane made if back safe, you wouldn't have a story to tell.
This is called Confirmation bias or ad hoc rationalization.
I was in the Air Force for 8 years, (Security Forces) i recently got out in Feb. this year.
My last duty assignment was in Germany. One night at a bar i was sitting down with some friends laughing (drunk of course) and suddenly i stopped, shot my hand up in the air behind me and struck a glass that someone threw at my head, it fell straight to the floor at shattered. (the bar was noisy, music playing, i was laughing at the time with some friends, looking at them not paying attention to my suroundings and this happened with absolutely no indication whatsoever. I guy from behind me at another table was drunk and stupid and threw a glass (a thick german glass) at the back of my head.
I did sense there was something wrong, and my body reacted naturally from my training.
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Yeah...in what way is that Sixth Sense? You sensed something. Are you sure in your alcoholic haze, that there was really no indication before you reacted?
While in Iraq (This occured in December of 2004) I was in mosul we had just landed doing aircraft security from Qatar, i was in the chow hall eating with my partner and felt something strange, i told him we needed to go now, and i made him leave with me and we went back to our plane. by the time we got back to the flight line the chow hall blew up. someone had snuck pieces of explosives on base over a long period of time and put a bomb together in the chow hall....
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I do find this story very hard to believe and if you are making this up, very disgusting behavior.

so did i just get lucky? or is it safe to admit there is more to it than we know?
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It is safe to claim that we don't know.
 
You must remember N1nja: anecdotes never equal evidence.

If you were subjected to appropriately blinded scientific testing and could demonstrate any kind of paranormal abilities, you'd be $1M richer. Are you up for the MDC?
 
N1nja: Don't expect to blow peoples' minds here with anecdotes. Anecdotes are pretty meaningless because they cannot be authenticated and are easily made up or embellished.
 
N1nja said:
While in Iraq (This occured in December of 2004) I was in mosul we had just landed doing aircraft security from Qatar, i was in the chow hall eating with my partner and felt something strange, i told him we needed to go now, and i made him leave with me and we went back to our plane. by the time we got back to the flight line the chow hall blew up. someone had snuck pieces of explosives on base over a long period of time and put a bomb together in the chow hall....
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Wow this sounds like exactly the sort of story that would end up being reported in the media. They love any story with a hint of the paranormal.

So I'm sure you can provide a link to such a story...

Or even just a story about this bombing.
 
N1nja said:
I am very skeptical of things, but after this expieriance, I am swayed it is real.
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You are not skeptical if you change your opinion based on a gut feeling or a personal anecdote.
As far as I can see you have already made up your mind that there is something 6th sense-y going on and will only use rational explanations of your experiences to 1) come up with more anecdotes. Or 2) to say something to the effect of "But I still do think something more is going on there"

Are you really ready to look at your anecdotes from a logical, skeptical and/or scientific point of view or do you just want to tell some stories ?
 
The goal is to feel his intent to kill you
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For your claim to make any sense the master would have to have the actual intent to kill you. You're telling us that he actually intends to kill you?
 
And it takes someone with the special ability to be able to project this intent, so being able to detect it from that person is useless to defend against any other danger which doesn't project it...
 
kerikiwi said:
Quite possibly.
Are you, like a rogue wave, building up to something?
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My point is that evidence should not be dismissed out of hand because it is anecdotal -- it depends how much support there is for the anecdote.
 
Delvo said:
And it takes someone with the special ability to be able to project this intent, so being able to detect it from that person is useless to defend against any other danger which doesn't project it...
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...or if he decides to just kill you, without projecting his intent. You know, like a real* ninja would....








*Comment not valid for all values of the word "real".
 
I watched the whole video. This is a skill that can be learned with a fair degree of accuracy but certainly nothing mystical. There is definitely a problem here with instructor bias. Once your body learns to respond to the cues it can happen even before you are conscious of it. The mechanism is built into your nervous system so that you can pull your hand for instance from a hot stove even before you are aware of being burned. Anything you practice enough can become automatic in the same way. It is this lack of conscious input that gives it a mystical aspect in your mind. I can't tell you how I know which of my family I hear walking up behind me but I do.

The physical cues begin when the instructor shifts his weight to his toes. In most floors this can be sensed along with changes in air pressure. The loose clothing actually increases the air effect. There is also sounds created of different frequencies. The degree of back motion of the sword then determines how much time you have to react.

EEGs prove that the brain responds at some level to stimuli too subtle for the conscious mind to be aware of. With practice and feedback you can learn to respond with some degree of success. Your brain can also learn to act automatically to stimuli that was learned consciously so you can actually be doing it while your conscious mind is thinking about something else. In fact a large amount of woo is created simply because the response seems automatic or intuitive without an identified stimuli. Your brain is wired this way for survival, the conscious mind is simply too slow to dictate response time in hazardous situations.
 
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