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4th August - epilogue - 19th September - prediction

Lucianarchy

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Thankfully, the CIA, FBI, DIA, MI5 etc pre-empted any attack planned for the 4th August with the unprecedented heightened security on major Western targets.

In addition, on the 4th August, MI5 managed to arrest up to 12 terrorists in the UK who were planning an attack on Heathrow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3537462.stm.

Like the 'Ladybrook' perception, it seems that attacks may not necessarily take place, they may be thwarted either bu intelligence tip-offs, or other action taken between the time of perception and the planned time of the attack. Obviously, the intelligence reports from the major agencies have proved that attacks were planned for this time, yet the correct application of intelligence can defeat terrorism if they act on all lines of communication.

I have percieved 19th September as another high risk window for similar attacks and hope and pray that the intelligence agancies agian act to thwart such an attack.

Peace.
 
in other words..."I predicted something would happen and it did not."

By your standards, I can predict someone's death but when they cease to expire on my predicted day I could thank his doctors for recommending he keep his weight down therefore preventing his early demise. I predicted his death but thank goodness it was thwarted by the diligence of his doctors.

You are deluded.
 
Your so called premonition was obviously wrong.If you had had an actual premonition, it would have been about how the planned attack was twarted.Maybe someday people will figure this out.
 
Lucianarchy said:
In addition, on the 4th August, MI5 managed to arrest up to 12 terrorists in the UK who were planning an attack on Heathrow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3537462.stm.
13 men (not 12 - one was released without charge the following day) were arrested on the 3rd, not the 4th. The attack on Heathrow has been linked to a man arrested in Pakistan, not the the 13 arrested in the UK.
 
Lucianarchy said:
Thankfully, the CIA, FBI, DIA, MI5 etc pre-empted any attack planned for the 4th August with the unprecedented heightened security on major Western targets.

ummm ... 'unprecendented'....... evidence??

Lucianarchy said:
In addition, on the 4th August, MI5 managed to arrest up to 12 terrorists in the UK who were planning an attack on Heathrow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3537462.stm.

ahem ... allow me to quote from that very story...

"a BBC correspondent in Pakistan says investigators have not confirmed the existence of a Heathrow plot"
....
"nobody is going on the record to connect Khan to a Heathrow plot"
....
"The Home Office said it would not comment on specific intelligence, but confirmed that there had not been a specific threat.
A spokeswoman said: "If there had been a specific, credible threat then we would let the public know." "

Wow... talk about shooting yourself in the foot.



Lucianarchy said:
I have percieved 19th September as another high risk window for similar attacks and hope and pray that the intelligence agancies agian act to thwart such an attack.

You are so full of it.
 
Luci, you seem to be saying that, while the predicted attack was inevitable, it was prevented. That is mad you know.
 
Luci, what would have had to happen or not happen for you to classify your prediction as plain wrong?
 
Re: Re: 4th August - epilogue - 19th September - prediction

JamesM said:
13 men (not 12 - one was released without charge the following day) were arrested on the 3rd, not the 4th. The attack on Heathrow has been linked to a man arrested in Pakistan, not the the 13 arrested in the UK.

Correct. The unprecedented heightened security over the last few days has undoubtably been good for the protection against such attacks. The UK arrests foiled at least one attempt. The heightened security in the US and elsewhere would have undoubtable thwarted any other attacks planned for this time.

Everyone know that security has been drastically heightened this week as a result of the intelligence community working together.

The intelligence agencies have shown that they are prepared and will act on information given to them.
 
Lucianarcy: You predicted an event. The event did not happen, Period.

That was silly, but not NEARLY as silly as your attempts to explain it away.

You are in a hole. Stop digging.

On second thought, perhaps you ARE a hole, in which case you may have reason to think digging will make you bigger.

Hans
 
As they say, when in a hole, stop digging...

Claus was right - Lucianarchy, you are the great gift to skepticism :D.
 
Prester John said:
Luci, what would have had to happen or not happen for you to classify your prediction as plain wrong?

Now that is a great question that I predict Luci will choose not to answer. :)

JPK
 
Thankfully, the CIA, FBI, DIA, MI5 etc pre-empted any attack planned for the 4th August with the unprecedented heightened security on major Western targets.

You should learn not to make predictions on JREF. The force of skeptical anti-psi is far greater than your psi could ever be. JREF stopped the attack. Just by critical thinking. We just got mo mojo.

:dl:
 
I am glad he was wrong again. I hope he continues to be wrong in the future, but as they say, "Even a blind wombat could get lucky once in a while."
Why they say that and who they are, I have no idea.
 
Re: Re: Re: 4th August - epilogue - 19th September - prediction

Lucianarchy said:
The intelligence agencies have shown that they are prepared and will act on information given to them.

Isn't everyone glad that Lunacy is able to help the intelligence agencies save us?

Maybe we should predict now what the excuse will be next time? The utterly non-specific nature of the new prediction leaves open a huge range of possibilities. Notice that the specifics from last time (limited though they were) have all gone.

No need for terrorist involvement;
No prediction on casualties;
No need for a Western target.

Just what is the difference between the latest prediction and "Something bad will happen somewhere in the world on [insert random date here]"?
 
JPK said:
Now that is a great question that I predict Luci will choose not to answer. :)

JPK

If the CIA. FBI, DIA, MI5 etc had not enforced heightened security on western targets over this time, then that would suggest that an attack by terrorists against a western target was not a risk. However, they evidently are not as closed-minded as some here and are prepared to but the security of people's lives ahead of doubt . The fact is, the intelligence community obviously had good reason to ramp up security on these targets. Such security would have undoubtably foiled any attack planned for that time.

If that had not happened, then I would of course say that the prediction was not significant. However, there evidently was an extremely high risk, so the predition remains significant.
 
Later in their careers, Dawkins and Gould agreed to no longer debate creationists as it gave the creationist nonsense an air of legitimacy that it didn't deserve. You could never win a debate with them as they refuse to acknowledge any errors in the face of mountains of opposing evidence.

I hereby take a page from their book. Bye, Luci. And good luck with that whole predicting the future stuff. Maybe one day you'll get it right...just like most people will make a seemingly surprisingly accurate prediction due to chance.
 
Oh, but Lucianarchy's predictions are 100% certain: If he predicts an event, then it will either happen, or it will, for some reason, not happen.

This is called Lucianarchy's Tautological Prediction Ability (LTPA), or, for short: Psirony.

:dio:

Hans
 
Lucianarchy said:
If the CIA. FBI, DIA, MI5 etc had not enforced heightened security on western targets over this time, then that would suggest that an attack by terrorists against a western target was not a risk.
But security was not ramped up at Heathrow, there is (currently) no reason to believe an attack there was planned for yesterday, so connecting the terror arrests in the UK (about which we know exactly nothing) and the arrest of Naeem Noor Khan in Pakistan to your pediction seems rather spurious.
 
Lucianarchy said:
If bla, bla, bla ...

If that had not happened, then I would of course say that the prediction was not significant. However, there evidently was a risk, so the predition remains significant.

It's really pathetic to watch you making such a fool of yourself, once again ... :rolleyes:
 
Flo said:
It's really pathetic to watch you making such a fool of yourself, once again ... :rolleyes:

You are welcome to your opinion, Flo.

But the fact is, there was an extremely high security alert enforced through the intelligence agancies over that period. Ergo, a high risk of attack against western targets by terrorists existed.

Thankfully, such action on intelligence would have foiled any planned attack.
 

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