3D Firearms Prohibitions Act

[crescent]

Because it is so small of a problem. Exactly how many Ghost Guns have been found at crime sites?

Here's one:

Shooting rampage in California highlights "ghost guns" and their dangers

The gunman who killed his wife and four others in a rampage in Northern California this week found an easy way around a court order prohibiting him from having guns: He built his own at home.

California mass shooter made his own rifles

Experts say Neal apparently exploited a legal loophole that enabled him to get around California’s tough gun laws by ordering the parts for a weapon that is illegal in that state — and putting it together at home.

And really the idea of tracing guns at all is a hollywood myth anyway.

In part, because legislation has intentionally made it difficult:

The ATF’s Nonsensical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained

To perform a search, ATF investigators must find the specific index number of a former dealer, then search records chronologically for records of the exact gun they seek. They may review thousands of images in a search before they find the weapon they are looking for. That’s because dealer records are required to be “non-searchable” under federal law. Keyword searches, or sorting by date or any other field, are strictly prohibited.

The government takes making gun records difficult to search quite seriously. A Government Accountability Office report released August 1 concluded that in two data systems, the ATF did not always comply with “restrictions prohibiting consolidation or centralization” of records. The GAO, which is entrusted with ensuring that federal agencies follow the law, was essentially chiding the ATF for making it a bit easier for its hundreds of investigators to do their jobs.

 

[Ranb]

I personally don't understand why is gun manufacture legal at all in US.

The guns have to come from somewhere.

Manufacture is less regulated than sales.

It is against the law in the USA to manufacture without a license. All licensees are vetted.

In most countries it's the other way around.

Can you explain this?


You might be confusing manufacturing and making. The US Code defines a gun manufacturer as one who does it as a business and there is no way to legally do this without a license. A person like myself who makes firearms as a hobby is not required to obtain a license although I have to pay a $200 on certain kinds I make. For rifles/shotgun/handguns I don't need a license provided I'm not in the habit of selling them.

 

[Hungry81]

Here's one:

Shooting rampage in California highlights "ghost guns" and their dangers


California mass shooter made his own rifles






In part, because legislation has intentionally made it difficult:

The ATF’s Nonsensical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained

Well people also make cupcakes and babies at home. Do you want legislation banning and tracking the making of cupcakes and babies too?

 

[casebro]

Here's one:

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ONE?

And didn't he also have other guns that he used, so the Ghost meant diddley?

You want to infringe on my constitutional rights* prevent ONE of the bazillion violent acts in this country?

* IA, 2A, 5A,.... and the general Right to Express myself with my hobbies. (Home shop machinist among others)

 

[Dr.Sid]

You might be confusing manufacturing and making. The US Code defines a gun manufacturer as one who does it as a business and there is no way to legally do this without a license. A person like myself who makes firearms as a hobby is not required to obtain a license although I have to pay a $200 on certain kinds I make. For rifles/shotgun/handguns I don't need a license provided I'm not in the habit of selling them.

Yes, I mean 'making'. In most countries, there is no difference. It's not the commerce, what's being regulated, but the fact the gun is created.
State wants to know about it, have the serial number, and all the process to be tightly controlled. In US, not so much. As long as the gun is not sold, nobody cares ?

 

[ponderingturtle]

Yes, I mean 'making'. In most countries, there is no difference. It's not the commerce, what's being regulated, but the fact the gun is created.
State wants to know about it, have the serial number, and all the process to be tightly controlled. In US, not so much. As long as the gun is not sold, nobody cares ?

On a federal level that is the case, provided it is not a kind of firearm like a short barreled shotgun/rifle, machine gun or so forth that has additional requirements on it.

Of course all states have their own laws on this. Though it might just be the owning is illegal not the making such as making a handgun without a handgun license

 

[Ranb]

....As long as the gun is not sold, nobody cares ?

Some states care. I'd have to take another look at the law to be sure, but as long as you only make a rifle, shotgun or handgun and keep it, then you don't need a serial number on it as far as the federal government is concerned. Laws that prohibit possession by felons and certain others still apply.