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2024 voting/ballot shenanigans

ChrisBFRPKY said:
Make sure you thank Trump for standing up against the voter suppression in Bucks County PA. There's nothing "confusing" about it according to the facts and the Court's ruling. Hugh Hewitt deserves a medal for injecting the WaPo lackies with fact and truth.
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He's Trumptrash so definitionally, he lacks both the intelligence and moral compass to grasp the concept of truth. He should have shut his mouth and learned from the actually Americans around him.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Make sure you thank Trump for standing up against the voter suppression in Bucks County PA. There's nothing "confusing" about it according to the facts and the Court's ruling. Hugh Hewitt deserves a medal for injecting the WaPo lackies with fact and truth.
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Fake cops stop voting in a heavily Democratic area and you think the Democractic party are doing the suppression.
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Gulliver Foyle said:
Fake cops stop voting in a heavily Democratic area and you think the Democractic party are doing the suppression
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I don't think he believes it at all. However, he is pretty dumb to think he can trick us with such very stupid claims.
 
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thaiboxerken said:
don't think he believes it at all. However, he is pretty dumb to think he can trick us with such very stupid claims.
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penncapital-star.com

Judge orders Bucks County to extend mail ballot deadline to Nov. 1 after Trump lawsuit • Pennsylvania Capital-Star

The injunction allows "any persons who wishes to apply for, receive, vote, and return a mail-in ballot to appear at the Election Bureau office" by the close of business on Nov. 1.
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Some education would go a long way to help prevent the posting of misinformation. Of course you are welcome to opinion, but that opinion cannot overrule the facts.
 
On social media, I'm see all kinds of posts about idiots walking into polling stations wearing Trump paraphenalia and making a scene when they are being politely ask to remove it because electioneering at a polling staiton is illegal. One class act in Ohio had a "onald Trump" shirt and said he took off the D because "it's in everyobdy's mouth".

I'm sure most of these twits know they have never been allowed to do this stuff, they jsut want their clout.
 
Here in Oz, the radio news reported USA polling stations being closed for half an hour, as a result of bomb threats originating from Russia.
 
Philadelphia accused of 'massive' cheating.... details unclear but a denial has been made by officials.
Trump claims law enforcement is coming. DA says the allegation is 'unfounded'.

Republicans put out a lot of ballot watchers this time so some one is bound to see something and react- whether it is actual cheating or not.
The only real violations of election law so far have been telling people to go home and mail a ballot while they were already in line before the deadline.
 
Sherkeu said:
Philadelphia accused of 'massive' cheating.... details unclear but a denial has been made by officials.
Trump claims law enforcement is coming. DA says the allegation is 'unfounded'.

Republicans put out a lot of ballot watchers this time so some one is bound to see something and react- whether it is actual cheating or not.
The only real violations of election law so far have been telling people to go home and mail a ballot while they were already in line before the deadline.
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He's claiming cheating in Detroit as well. He'll claim cheating in every district he loses, because he's a sniveling coward frightened of being held responsible for . . . anything, really.
 
Sherkeu said:
Philadelphia accused of 'massive' cheating.... details unclear but a denial has been made by officials.
Trump claims law enforcement is coming. DA says the allegation is 'unfounded'.

Republicans put out a lot of ballot watchers this time so some one is bound to see something and react- whether it is actual cheating or not.
The only real violations of election law so far have been telling people to go home and mail a ballot while they were already in line before the deadline.
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Trump alleges there’s cheating, you say? Wow, what a scoop!

Please keep us posted on this totally legit and real thing that is for sure happening.
 
johnny karate said:
Trump alleges there’s cheating, you say? Wow, what a scoop!

Please keep us posted on this totally legit and real thing that is for sure happening.
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The ballot game can be big business. In-party harvesting is not uncommon- and it pays.
Better the accusations are settled today rather than inane arguments and conspiracies for the next few years about mail in ballots.

Watchers get to watch - all parties can report rule violations. So far there aren't as many as I would have thought for such a close race.

I'll be sure to let you know if Trump yells in ALL CAPS at another county.
 
hey, maybe we'll hear more about it a mike lindell's next ppv event. hulk hogan is going to bodyslam sydney powell through a dominion voting machine
 
Sherkeu said:
The ballot game can be big business. In-party harvesting is not uncommon- and it pays.
Better the accusations are settled today rather than inane arguments and conspiracies for the next few years about mail in ballots.

Watchers get to watch - all parties can report rule violations. So far there aren't as many as I would have thought for such a close race.

I'll be sure to let you know if Trump yells in ALL CAPS at another county.
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No evidence of cheating has been provided, so there's nothing to settle. And the idea that somehow "settling" the accusations will mitigate inane arguments and conspiracy theories is laughable. The team you voted for hasn't shut up about the 2020 election in four years, despite zero evidence of fraud.
 
So is there a separate thread for the Spoonamore allegations? If so, I don't see it. Some pretty serious allegations--if Trump had something like this you could bet that a million cult members would be marching on the Capitol right now.... The number of 'bullet ballots' is rather curious.
So far as Ihear, Harris has not done anything yet to address the concerns, not sure why when the election was literally a 50/50 split
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stanfr said:
So is there a separate thread for the Spoonamore allegations? If so, I don't see it. Some pretty serious allegations--if Trump had something like this you could bet that a million cult members would be marching on the Capitol right now.... The number of 'bullet ballots' is rather curious.
So far as Ihear, Harris has not done anything yet to address the concerns, not sure why when the election was literally a 50/50 split
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I read through his post and its a long way from evidence of anything.

He says that bullet ballots (a ballot where only the presidential pick is made and no down-ballot selections are chosen) is abnormally high in all swing states compared to the rest of the country but he doesn't really give enough info to back that up.

For example, he does show that the % of bullet ballots for trump was 7.2% in AZ, 5.5% in NV and "over 11%" in NC while the country's non swing states averaged "a nominal >1%". I'm sorry what does that mean? >1% simply means more than 1%, so how much more? Why wouldn't he state the actual number? And why give an average? It would be better to provide state by state info because there is very likely a range from state to state.

He also claims that the number of bullet ballots for Trump was abnormally high in WI, PA and MI but gives no data to back that up. He must have some basis on which to make that statement but curiously he doesn't share it.

Finally he compares the states bordering AZ or NV by showing that their numbers of bullet ballots for Trump was between 0.01% and 0.03% in ID, OR, & UT. Ok, except what about CA and NM which also border AZ or NV? Curiously he leaves those numbers out, making the comparison look cherry-picked.

Also, if the non swing states nationally are averaging "a nominal >1%" yet the ID, OR & UT were in the 0.01% to 0.03% range, we can reasonably conclude there were also non swing states that are well over 1%, perhaps even approaching the 5-7% range that he shows for NV and AZ. Again though, he gives no data for us to know one way or another.

Its also worth noting that all his numbers are the bullet ballots that went for Trump. Presumably Harris had some of these as well but again, no numbers are given for comparison.

From there he concludes that this obvious statistical anomaly can only be explained by a hack and lays out ways it could be done.

Sorry, but he hasn't even come close to proving there actually is a statistical anomaly here. I'd like to see an actual, non-biased statistician take a look at the numbers because I'd be willing to bet this whole theory falls apart in an instant.
 
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LiteBright said:
I read through his post and its a long way from evidence of anything.

He says that bullet ballots (a ballot where only the presidential pick is made and no down-ballot selections are chosen) is abnormally high in all swing states compared to the rest of the country but he doesn't really give enough info to back that up.

For example, he does show that the % of bullet ballots for trump was 7.2% in AZ, 5.5% in NV and "over 11%" in NC while the country's non swing states averaged "a nominal >1%". I'm sorry what does that mean? >1% simply means more than 1%, so how much more? Why wouldn't he state the actual number? And why give an average? It would be better to provide state by state info because there is very likely a range from state to state.

He also claims that the number of bullet ballots for Trump was abnormally high in WI, PA and MI but gives no data to back that up. He must have some basis on which to make that statement but curiously he doesn't share it.

Finally he compares the states bordering AZ or NV by showing that their numbers of bullet ballots for Trump was between 0.01% and 0.03% in ID, OR, & UT. Ok, except what about CA and NM which also border AZ or NV? Curiously he leaves those numbers out, making the comparison look cherry-picked.

Also, if the non swing states nationally are averaging "a nominal >1%" yet the ID, OR & UT were in the 0.01% to 0.03% range, we can reasonably conclude there were also non swing states that are well over 1%, perhaps even approaching the 5-7% range that he shows for NV and AZ. Again though, he gives no data for us to know one way or another.

Its also worth noting that all his numbers are the bullet ballots that went for Trump. Presumably Harris had some of these as well but again, no numbers are given for comparison.

From there he concludes that this obvious statistical anomaly can only be explained by a hack and lays out ways it could be done.

Sorry, but he hasn't even come close to proving there actually is a statistical anomaly here. I'd like to see an actual, non-biased statistician take a look at the numbers because I'd be willing to bet this whole theory falls apart in an instant.
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I think he was pretty careful to say it is not proof of anything, just something that needs to be investigated. My point is, if this were an allegation made by Trump, it would be investigated. So I don't think the Democrats should just say 'we aren't even going to look into it" That would be precisely the response that any hypothetical vote fraudster would want to elicit.
 
stanfr said:
I think he was pretty careful to say it is not proof of anything, just something that needs to be investigated. My point is, if this were an allegation made by Trump, it would be investigated. So I don't think the Democrats should just say 'we aren't even going to look into it" That would be precisely the response that any hypothetical vote fraudster would want to elicit.
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True enough and I believe he published his findings in good faith. I'm just not getting my hopes up because he really hasn't done a thorough analysis. Hopefully someone inside the Harris campaign will have a look at the full data and decide if there is any merit in the claim.
 
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