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2024 voting/ballot shenanigans

crescent

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Thinking of attempts to actually destroy ballots, fraudulent ballots and registrations. That kind of thing, separate from the things that the parties and candidates do. I think there will be more, both real and false claims. I am hoping to have a thread to keep track of them all, feel free to keep adding to the list if you hear of more.

1: 12 fraudulent votes cast in Mesa County, CO. Three were not caught in time and cannot be removed due to the way ballots are anonymous once removed from the envelope. Source, Colorado Sun. Nine were caught and removed in time. It seems like someone stole the blank ballots from mailboxes, all in the same neighborhood (In Colorado everyone gets a mailed ballot, to be mailed back in or dropped off at a ballot box; in-person voting is also allowed). No suspects listed yet.

2: Ballot boxes burned in Vancouver, WA. This is a district with a tight House race. Three more burned in Portland, OR but apparently with no damage. Several hundred ballots were in the Vancouver box but may be recoverable. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ballot-boxes-set-fire-portland-vancouver-rcna177611 No suspects described yet by law enforcement.

3: 2500 fraudulent voter registration forms dropped off in Lancaster, PE. They are blaming it on paid canvassers, implying that it was just one organization:
Asked who was behind it, Schmidt said, “We understand from the county that there was an outside organization collecting registrations and submitted them right before the voter registration deadline.”
They don't identify the organization though.

4: Claims that foreigners are blatantly voting illegally just to spite the Dems. This one is just pure misinformation, the only "proof" are pics of passport covers next to pics of filled out ballots. Mostly just reusing the same ballot pic over and over again. Reddit link, which has links to the "source" on Twitter. But it seems to have some gullible people on both sides up in a lather. Destroying trust in the system seems to maybe be the goal. Trolling.

Others?
 
Place your bets on which party the person/people responsible for the above belong to.

We took our ballots to the post office.
 
Trump supporter is upset that a tent was set up for Harris and not Trump and chooses some light automobile violence.

 
Trump supporter is upset that a tent was set up for Harris and not Trump and chooses some light automobile violence.

This is obviously due to Kamala and Walz's violent rhetoric....
 
Thinking of attempts to actually destroy ballots, fraudulent ballots and registrations. That kind of thing, separate from the things that the parties and candidates do. I think there will be more, both real and false claims. I am hoping to have a thread to keep track of them all, feel free to keep adding to the list if you hear of more.

1: 12 fraudulent votes cast in Mesa County, CO. Three were not caught in time and cannot be removed due to the way ballots are anonymous once removed from the envelope. Source, Colorado Sun. Nine were caught and removed in time. It seems like someone stole the blank ballots from mailboxes, all in the same neighborhood (In Colorado everyone gets a mailed ballot, to be mailed back in or dropped off at a ballot box; in-person voting is also allowed). No suspects listed yet.

2: Ballot boxes burned in Vancouver, WA. This is a district with a tight House race. Three more burned in Portland, OR but apparently with no damage. Several hundred ballots were in the Vancouver box but may be recoverable. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ballot-boxes-set-fire-portland-vancouver-rcna177611 No suspects described yet by law enforcement.

3: 2500 fraudulent voter registration forms dropped off in Lancaster, PE. They are blaming it on paid canvassers, implying that it was just one organization:

They don't identify the organization though.

4: Claims that foreigners are blatantly voting illegally just to spite the Dems. This one is just pure misinformation, the only "proof" are pics of passport covers next to pics of filled out ballots. Mostly just reusing the same ballot pic over and over again. Reddit link, which has links to the "source" on Twitter. But it seems to have some gullible people on both sides up in a lather. Destroying trust in the system seems to maybe be the goal. Trolling.

Others?
I'm guessing that the org in 3 is "America" PAC.
 
I'm guessing that the org in 3 is "America" PAC.
You know, depending upon the details that one might be a bit less harsh than it appears.

Remember ACORN? They used paid canvassers, and those canvassers collected from fraudulent registrations as well. ACORN flagged the suspicious ones and turned them in as required by law. ACORN was aware that some of it's canvassers had engaged in misconduct but was still required to turn in the suspicious registrations, albeit flagged for review.

And for that they were absolutely excoriated in the national press such that they has to disband the entire organization.

If some of these were flagged in a similar way, the organization may have limited exposure.
 
You know, depending upon the details that one might be a bit less harsh than it appears.

Remember ACORN? They used paid canvassers, and those canvassers collected from fraudulent registrations as well. ACORN flagged the suspicious ones and turned them in as required by law. ACORN was aware that some of it's canvassers had engaged in misconduct but was still required to turn in the suspicious registrations, albeit flagged for review.

And for that they were absolutely excoriated in the national press such that they has to disband the entire organization.

If some of these were flagged in a similar way, the organization may have limited exposure.
Galaxy Brain may have ordered certain activities to happen (in writing even), but he'll never order such activities by any org he controls to be exposed.
 

Supreme Court allows Virginia to purge suspected noncitizens from voter registration rolls

The decision, which came without explanation and over the dissent of the court’s three liberal justices, will allow the state to continue to remove certain voters it suspects of being noncitizens.
From what I gather the issue with this is with the data sources used to identify potential non-citizens who are registered to vote. That data does not get updated often enough. So someone gets a Driver's License when they are a non-citizen. Then they get their citizenship, but don't update the DL (which in some states indicates citizenship status). Then the state sees someone who's DL shows non-citizen status but that person is registered to vote and they get pulled from the list. That's fixable, but not always in time to vote.
 
I'm sure it isn't the SCOTUS putting their thumb on the scale to get Trump into office.....
 
This one could also fit in the "Election Violence" thread:

Florida teen with machete arrested for voter intimidation at polling place

An 18-year-old was arrested outside a Florida polling location Tuesday after police said he wielded a machete in order to intimidate voters.

Caleb James Williams faces charges of aggravated assaulted on a person 65 years of age or older and improper exhibition of a firearm or dangerous weapon.

In a press conference after the arrest, Neptune Beach Police Chief Michael J. Key said Williams "brandished a machete in an aggressive, threatening posture over his head" at two women, ages 71 and 54.

Williams was accompanied by seven other male teens, ages 16 and 17, who police said went to the Beaches Branch Library "to protest and antagonize the opposing political side."
 
Looks like the 2024 Pennsylvania Presidential election results have been announced on ABC. A bit premature.


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Trump supporter is upset that a tent was set up for Harris and not Trump and chooses some light automobile violence.

Only a matter of time before someone is killed.
 
Trump supporter is upset that a tent was set up for Harris and not Trump and chooses some light automobile violence.

About what you can expect from their kind. Trump supporters are a cancer on this country. It's like our body politic caught leukemia. They poison the blood of the nation.
 
Among the MAGA terrorists a video went viral where they convinced themselves they found a voter dropping off too many ballots for a single person. The cameraman pursues and harasses the man into the vote center, demanding to know why he’s commenting fraud.

Turns out the guy was the local postmaster doing his job,

 

The incendiary devices were marked with the message “Free Gaza,” according to a law enforcement official who spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation.
I could see that as either the guys legit grievance, a Jussy Smollet situation, or an Anonymous source lying.
 

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