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2024 Republican Primary

Long article by Tim Alberta about 2024 hopeful Nikki Haley: Nikki Haley’s Time for Choosing
As is often the case, Alberta's insights into GOP politics are worth a read.

The first paragraph is pure gold:

Late last year, Nikki Haley had a friend who was going through a hard time. He had lost his job and was being evicted from his house. He was getting bad advice from bad people who were filling his head with self-destructive fantasies. He seemed to be losing touch with reality. Out of concern, Haley called the man. “I want to make sure you’re okay,” she told him. “You’re my president, but you’re also my friend.”
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The last one illustrates the dilemma Haley and other 2024 hopefuls face:

There is a path of least resistance that Haley could yet pursue. No matter her passion in denouncing the president during our January 12 interview, no matter her certainty that he was crippled and the party was moving on without him, there is still time for Haley to recover. A campaign launch is two years off. She can work to rekindle that warm relationship with Trump, persuading him and his family that she got carried away. She can pretend that Marjorie Taylor Greene is just another harmless GOP backbencher. She can cozy up to the heavyweights at Fox News and convince them to pull their punches. She can pour her time and energy into denouncing those damned socialists in the Democratic Party, carrying forth as the partisan warrior queen, crossing her fingers and hoping that everyone from the redhats to the Republican National Committee members forget her momentary lapse.

Or she can say what she wants to say. She can cast her lot with Liz Cheney. She can campaign as herself. She can prove—once and for all—that her parents made the right choice by coming to the United States of America.

Hoping for a hint, I asked Haley on January 12: Does she still consider Trump a friend?

“Friend,” she answered, “is a loose term.”
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I'm interested to see what happens with this breakaway conservative party. If they take most of the 19 percent of the Republican Party that disapproves of Trump it's a Democratic win. The Republicans might have to give in to the will of the minority for the sake of still being viable. Republicans can't risk even a ten percent defection in Florida, Ohio or Texas.
 
I'm going to guess two retired Generals who might run as Republicans:

General Michael Flynn: I don't think he would run against Trump, but I could see him as a VP pick, especially if Trump snags the nomination. Running in the primaries could position him for that VP pick, or even the President if Trump doesn't run. He's arch-right, has pledged support of Qanon.

General Stanley McChrystal: Was removed from his post (in part) for criticizing VP Biden - but then endorsed Biden for President. Has also endorsed a few other Dems for office and has expressed support for some concepts generally popular with Dems. Then again, he was more or less fired by the Obama administration and had a very good reputation as a wartime military leader. The record as a war leader could position him as a solid moderate Republican candidate to push against Trump and Trump pretenders.
 
Stacyhs said:
Ted Cruz will have to be surgically removed from Trump's colon before he could run in 2024. Unless he runs as Trump's VP. Then it could be quite useful having him so close 24/7.
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Like Hawley, Cruz seems so full of himself I'd bet he'll run again.
 
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crescent said:
I'm going to guess two retired Generals who might run as Republicans:

General Michael Flynn: I don't think he would run against Trump, but I could see him as a VP pick, especially if Trump snags the nomination. Running in the primaries could position him for that VP pick, or even the President if Trump doesn't run. He's arch-right, has pledged support of Qanon.

General Stanley McChrystal: Was removed from his post (in part) for criticizing VP Biden - but then endorsed Biden for President. Has also endorsed a few other Dems for office and has expressed support for some concepts generally popular with Dems. Then again, he was more or less fired by the Obama administration and had a very good reputation as a wartime military leader. The record as a war leader could position him as a solid moderate Republican candidate to push against Trump and Trump pretenders.
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FLynn is too much damaged goods, frankly.
 
If Trump is able to and decides to run again in 2024 he could find it a little harder without access to Social Media.
 
It requires a special kind of person to keep up the level of crazy set by Trump, Flynn and MTG.
Not every GOP candidate is completely shameless.
 
crescent said:
I'm going to guess two retired Generals who might run as Republicans:

General Michael Flynn: I don't think he would run against Trump, but I could see him as a VP pick, especially if Trump snags the nomination. Running in the primaries could position him for that VP pick, or even the President if Trump doesn't run. He's arch-right, has pledged support of Qanon.

General Stanley McChrystal: Was removed from his post (in part) for criticizing VP Biden - but then endorsed Biden for President. Has also endorsed a few other Dems for office and has expressed support for some concepts generally popular with Dems. Then again, he was more or less fired by the Obama administration and had a very good reputation as a wartime military leader. The record as a war leader could position him as a solid moderate Republican candidate to push against Trump and Trump pretenders.
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I've heard McChrystal speak a couple of times since he retired. I think there is zero chance of him running as a Republican. My impression of him was that he was a scholar general in the Eisenhower mold. Absent a complete turnaround in the GOP's anti intellectualism stance he won't have much appeal.

Also, he endorsed Biden. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/politics/stanley-mcchrystal-biden.html

Something of a deal breaker.
 
Craig4 said:
I've heard McChrystal speak a couple of times since he retired. I think there is zero chance of him running as a Republican. My impression of him was that he was a scholar general in the Eisenhower mold. Absent a complete turnaround in the GOP's anti intellectualism stance he won't have much appeal.

Also, he endorsed Biden. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/politics/stanley-mcchrystal-biden.html

Something of a deal breaker.
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Dealbreaker in the GQP for sure, but if the sensible portion of the party breaks off, that branch might not see it as a killer issue.
 
PhantomWolf said:
If Trump is able to and decides to run again in 2024 he could find it a little harder without access to Social Media.
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He has access to social media though, doesnt he?.
Anything he says is copied and shared to twitter in mere minutes, by proxy.
This would be supporters and those critical.

Tough really to ban someone that people are paying attention to. If he declines in 'clicks' and interest is down, then maybe.
 
At this point, I won't accept any argument of "damaged goods", "too obviously crazy", "far too openly bigoted", or "has a history of insanity" as a disqualifier for the Republican presidential candidate. If anyone thinks, "Aha, I found some dirt on this guy making sexist remarks!" is enough to kill off anyone's candidacy, then they must have been in a coma for four years.

The only thing that might disqualify a candidate is if they show even the merest hint of moral scruples.
 
Sherkeu said:
He has access to social media though, doesnt he?.

Anything he says is copied and shared to twitter in mere minutes, by proxy.

This would be supporters and those critical.



Tough really to ban someone that people are paying attention to. If he declines in 'clicks' and interest is down, then maybe.
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Well when he first got banned from twitter, trump tried to use other accounts (the official POTUS account, and one from one of his workers). The posts were removed by twitter and (in the case of the worker) their account was suspended.

Twitter would likely do the same to any account that "parroted" trump.

So whomever wanted to post Trump's rantings would have to filter them, which would probably mean a drop in interest.

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