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Merged 2024 Election Thread

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The Great Zaganza said:
you're not really aware of religious communities in the US, are you?
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No, I'm sadly fully aware of them, right up to where Trump is King Cyrus.

Regnad Kcin said:
Mr. Biden’s daily agenda could include a three-hour slot for sniffing and kissing, with a 15-minute cigarette break, and he would still be several orders of magnitude better than Trump.
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Maybe the Democrats should aim the bar a little higher than "Better than a rapist, racist, misogynist piece of ****".
 
Darat said:
Pity Biden has never ran against Trump before and won.
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In 2020 when the dynamics were such due to Covid that he could run a campaign from his basement. Next year he won't have that liberty, although he could try the Rose Garden strategy (which didn't work for Jimmy Carter).

Nate Silver is out with an article essentially arguing that the only thing crazier than trying to oust Biden is letting him run if he can't handle the rigors of the campaign.

He references (but does not link) this article by Jonathan Martin at Politico:

2024 will be an extraordinary election, and it demands extraordinary measures.

That’s in part for reasons Biden refuses to accept: his capacity to do the job. The oldest president in history when he first took the oath, Biden will not be able to govern and campaign in the manner of previous incumbents. He simply does not have the capacity to do it, and his staff doesn’t trust him to even try, as they make clear by blocking him from the press. Biden’s bid will give new meaning to a Rose Garden campaign, and it requires accommodation to that unavoidable fact of life.
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Segnosaur said:
The average polling results in both the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections were both within 5% of the final results, so they must be doing SOMETHING right.
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Stacyhs said:
Citation for highlighted, please.
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The AAPOR task force examined 2,858 polls, including 529 national presidential race polls and 1,572 state-level presidential polls. They found that the surveys overstated the margin between President Biden and former president Donald Trump by 3.9 points in the national popular vote and 4.3 percentage points in state polls.
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Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6a9838-e7df-11eb-ba5d-55d3b5ffcaf1_story.html


BTW, the national average across 2020 presidential polls was off by only about 2% of the popular vote.
 
The Atheist said:
Maybe the Democrats should aim the bar a little higher than "Better than a rapist, racist, misogynist piece of ****".
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Dr.Sid said:
Sure. My point is there must be someone better, as just being Biden might not be enough this time.
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Let me try a different angle.

Insofar as we elect an administration, not just a presidential ticket, I’m okay if the chief of staff and the entire West Wing prop up Joe Weekend at Bernie’s style if it comes to that. The Biden team is made up of competent if not outstanding bureaucrats, personnel, and staff. I don’t trust Trump’s goons to put the batteries in a TV remote without starting a fire.

Put another way, I for one, sitting back in 13C at 30,000’, am relaxed, confident the people on the flight deck know what they’re doing, even when navigating some rough skies. Trump is happy to sit in his cave directing Team MAGA to storm the cockpit and fly us all into a skyscraper.

You know, for ratings.
 
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The Atheist said:
I had a thread on Creepy Joe when he was running for 2020 and I stand by the point I made at the time:

If any other adult male touched little girls the way Joe Biden touches little girls, he would either cop a fist in the face or a visit from the police.

I was amazed the Republicans didn't make more of it at the time, but maybe the Republicans were scared that an attack on Biden as a sexual predator might backfire on the fact that their bloke was a sexual predator as well.

The Dems don't care, so it's a lost cause. It's just a nice old man who likes to touch pre-pubescent girls' chests and kiss and sniff their hair.

A few years back, our bloke pulled an adult ponytail and half the country wanted him to fall on his sword.
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Oh for pity's sake, get your minds out of the gutter. He didn't grab them by their pussies.

He's 80 and has no history, none, zilch, of being a pedophile. No one even brought it up until the GOP slime machine went to town looking for something, anything they had on Biden. They made up BS about the Biden crime family and they are trying to smear him as 'doddering' and 'old'.

They got nothing and this is also nothing. Do you know any grandparents that do innocent but embarrassing things?

He also stopped doing it when it was pointed out to him it might look bad. Did he slip? :covereyes

If he did it begs the question, why wasn't he told not to do it years ago?

Maybe because it wasn't more of an issue than grandpa is embarrassing.
 
The Don said:
Has he literally said this or was it more like Obama's anointed successor he beat - in effect beating Obama ?
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He said it, literally. A few of the times he might have realized his mistake too late and tried to cover it up with a followup line.

He has a habit of doing that to coverup his mistakes like when he was told he said he was in Sioux Falls and he was in Sioux City, instead of admitting the mistake he asked people how many of them were from Sioux City then quickly changed the subject.

Trump has been obsessed with beating Obama when Obama made fun of him at the WH Correspondents Dinner. Trump's mental illness is that severe.

Speaking of which, a good way to get the man off his game is replay that birth certificate joke Obama pulled.
 
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Biden bashers really need to STFU. People doing it are embarrassing themselves. They need to take that echo-chamber nonsense over to the kiddy table.

In the meantime, Biden is the Democratic candidate and all the bashing isn't going to drive him away so people can have their imaginary zipless **** * candidate instead. It's analogous to MAGA cultists believing Trump is going to do all the magical things he pretends he's going to do.

BTW, what all the Biden bad-mouthing is doing is enticing all the fringe candidates to get in the race because they can't help that imaginary thinking anyway. Just like Ralph Nader gave us GW Bush and the Iraq War and all the Hillary bashing did not get us Bernie, it got us Trump.

Grow up people. Your personal dislike of Biden is going to get us Nightmare Trump, poised to follow Bad Dream Trump. And if you don't live in the US don't think for a minute it won't affect you:
I'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends​

*Reference from Erica Jong's Fear of Flying
“The zipless **** is absolutely pure. It is free of ulterior motives. There is no power game . The man is not "taking" and the woman is not "giving." No one is attempting to cuckold a husband or humiliate a wife. No one is trying to prove anything or get anything out of anyone. The zipless **** is the purest thing there is. And it is rarer than the unicorn. And I have never had one.”
― Erica Jong, Fear of Flying
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IOW a zipless candidate is that magical one who doesn't exist.
 
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Regnad Kcin said:
Let me try a different angle.

Insofar as we elect an administration, not just a presidential ticket, I’m okay if the chief of staff and the entire West Wing prop up Joe Weekend at Bernie’s style if it comes to that. The Biden team is made up of competent if not outstanding bureaucrats, personnel, and staff. I don’t trust Trump’s goons to put the batteries in a TV remote without starting a fire.

Put another way, I for one, sitting back in 13C at 30,000’, am relaxed, confident the people on the flight deck know what they’re doing, even when navigating some rough skies. Trump is happy to sit in his cave directing Team MAGA to storm the cockpit and fly us all into a skyscraper.

You know, for ratings.
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I'm not saying Trump will be doing it better. I'm saying Biden might not beat him this time.
 
Now I'm just stuck in linguist-mode trying to figure out how anybody could have ever associated zips or ziplessness with that concept.
 
Brainster said:
In 2020 when the dynamics were such due to Covid that he could run a campaign from his basement. Next year he won't have that liberty, although he could try the Rose Garden strategy (which didn't work for Jimmy Carter).

Nate Silver is out with an article essentially arguing that the only thing crazier than trying to oust Biden is letting him run if he can't handle the rigors of the campaign.

He references (but does not link) this article by Jonathan Martin at Politico:
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Biden has had a fairly busy schedule as President, including a fairly grueling Asia tour.

But more to the point, no one is probably going to be able to run a 'normal' campaign simply by dint of the shear number and magnitude of ongoing crisis happening in the world. Trump could basically ignore the job and campaign while CiC, but I doubt anyone else could do that just because of a lack of the requisite overwhelming hubris.

No idea how the voters respond to such considerations.
 
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