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The Atheist said:
That's perfect.

She's already showing her smarts, and I think she's going to have a huge impact on two really important groups that Biden turned off - youth and women.

I hope the Democrats get behind her 100% and ensure she beats Trump to become your first woman president - there's no reason she can't win, and every reason she should win.

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Too bad she is sort of an idiot when she speaks in person. She came from my state and I am so sorry for it. It is usually the DEI crap that allows her stupid comment to be filtered through some "expect less" filter so no one tells it like it is for fear of being 'RACIST!!'
If she was a white man she would be much less articulate than Bush #2. And of course, so unlikeable.
Btw... She is not an African American by descent, so why do people care about her color so much? She is a daughter of foreign immigrants, the black one one descended from Jamaican slave owners. None born in USA.
The narrative should be her capabilities and merit- but she can't sell it that way because those stories have big recent failures.
 
arthwollipot said:
Did any of those break windows, threaten the life of the Vice President, and smear poo on the walls?

You mean there were a few desperate people trying to rein in his most egregious excesses, and now that he's got them out of the way he'll be free to do whatever the hell he wants?

Trump doesn't communicate. Communication implies a two-way conversation. Trump doesn't have that, he dictates. He lectures. He rants. He doesn't listen to anybody. He doesn't care what other people say, he only cares about saying whatever goes through his mind at the time, with no filter.
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Yes there were windows broken across the street, yes there were threats against President Trump. I'm not certain about any smeared poo but there were fires and attacks on Secret Service agents. So much so that President Trump was moved to the White House bunker during the "protest".

I meant exactly what I said. There was a political coup against Trump from the beginning. That won't happen this time. Fool me once kind of thing.

Trump is a master communicator, you just refuse to acknowledge it. You don't get to Billionaire status without being able to communicate. It's delusional to believe otherwise.
 
Aridas said:
*raises an eyebrow*

That you seem to want to limit the economy to ONLY what you claim are poor energy policies is rather telling.

Seriously, your logic seems nonsensical through and through. Once again, actual oil production has soared under Biden. Permitting does seem to have been notably slowed, but any effects on supply and demand there would not be or have been appreciably in evidence when it comes to the effects on the economy currently, contrary to your pretenses.



Where? Trump promising massive tariffs all around, promising to cause massive economic disruptions all over the place with a huge effort to root out all illegal workers, and other similar promises are what's being referred to when it comes to expected Trumpflation.

Of course, perhaps you want to pretend that Trump's disastrous mismanagement of COVID and the resultant massive disruption, damage, and inflation is all Biden's fault, yet again?



The fun part is, I think that you're actually sharp enough to know that you're trying to misrepresent reality and that you're entirely fine with engaging in fallacy to do so. Again, without including the changes in income, only looking at changes in cost of living is a recipe for deceit. It's entirely possible that things actually are getting worse when all things are considered, but if you're going to make an argument, do it honestly. That you consistently have not been doing so strongly suggests that you cannot.



:rolleyes:

As ever, you happily ignore a bunch of extremely relevant things that strongly contradict your narrative. Intentionally, of course.



You mean trade policies like





Mmm. Here, I have some advice for you.






As opposed to the tariffs remaining because Biden doesn't want to feed the "Weak on China" narrative that Republicans tried really hard to push, despite how little basis it actually had?

More officially, though -



Both the official and what I suggested both sound like they have dramatically more to do with the state of things than what you just suggested, either way.

Nice to know that you don't actually care about increased prices, though, anytime it doesn't fit your preferred narrative.
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I think that's very cute to link to trade proposals and proposed agreements that have yet to be made policy. I propose everyone here should be elevated to Billionaire status. Let me know when that happens too.

It would be a big step in the direction of honesty if you could just admit I'm correct and the fact is Biden has negotiated no new trade policies OR agreements during his time in office. None. But that's the thing about truth and facts, they are what they are and you either accept them or live the lie. Choose the truth.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Trump is a master communicator, you just refuse to acknowledge it. You don't get to Billionaire status without being able to communicate. It's delusional to believe otherwise.
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Are you a troll? Trump inherited his fortune. Mark Zuckerberg has Aspergers and can barely look someone in the eye during a conversation. Elon Musk has Aspergers and can barely have a conversation at all. Peter Thiel...I don't know what his problem is, but I recently sat through his rambling keynote address at an academic conference where nobody in the audience had a clue what the guy was talking about.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
Yes, yes, I’m sure Donald is your boyfriend. Tru Luv 4 Eva.

Seriously, as you’re typing all that out, not even you can keep a straight face, right?
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I love opinion. Difficult to debate opinion though isn't it.

a_unique_person said:
The 6th January protests were directed at the whole of Congress. They had gallows out for the VP. They were a part of the larger plan to derail the peaceful transfer of power. The violent ones in jail are being treated as heroes.
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As I had mentioned before, there was a violent protest outside the White House in which things got kinda fiery as well. If those folks had been Republican I'll bet you'd see things differently. You decide.

W.D.Clinger said:
Although the "STUPIDEST WHATABOUTISM EVER" contest continues to accept entries, it is not too early to congratulate ChrisBFRPKY for this outstanding effort:
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Not whataboutism, honesty. Get some.
ZiprHead said:
Wut???

Biden’s oil boom
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You mean in Dec of 2023 US oil production finally reached 2019 levels again. That's great! Though Biden had little if anything to do with it. And what happened during the years prior to Dec 2023? Why did oil production drop? Sure we had a production drop during the Covid lockdowns, but why was the supply dropping afterward? Why did Biden make all those trips around the World begging for oil? The answer is his war on oil on the very first day he sat in the Big Boy's chair. This had much to do with record high inflation but by the time Biden realized what he had done, it was too late. For many months Biden has been releasing oil from the Strategic Reserve to try to bring down the price of gas for the election. You do realize once the election is over that will stop right? If it doesn't our reserve will be depleted.
 
jt512 said:
Are you a troll? Trump inherited his fortune. Mark Zuckerberg has Aspergers and can barely look someone in the eye during a conversation. Elon Musk has Aspergers and can barely have a conversation at all. Peter Thiel...I don't know what his problem is, but I recently sat through his rambling keynote address at an academic conference where nobody in the audience had a clue what the guy was talking about.
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Same question. Do you believe Trump inherited his fortune to the tune of billions? It seems you don't know enough about the man to create an informed opinion.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Same question. Do you believe Trump inherited his fortune to the tune of billions? It seems you don't know enough about the man to create an informed opinion.
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OK, I looked it up. Trump only inherited $413 million. On the other hand, you just made up everything that I originally quoted you on. There was not a word of truth in it. Even turning $413 million into $1 billion requires no communication skill whatsoever. Just parking that money in mutual funds would turn it into $1 billion in about 10 years.
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
Same question. Do you believe Trump inherited his fortune to the tune of billions? It seems you don't know enough about the man to create an informed opinion.
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He inherited hundreds of millions from his father as part of a tax evasion scheme. The source of Fred Trump’s wealth was building housing through federal contracts, so his tax evasion meant that he was effectively stealing from the US government (and by extension, the tax-paying public). And both father and son cultivated relationships with crooked political bosses, as well as the Mob and their vicious lawyers (Roy Cohn being the most infamous among them).

Plus, it’s easy to make a lot of money when you don’t pay your taxes or your creditors yet get bailed out regardless. Yes, Trump is a media-savvy con man who not only has a knack for getting the rich and powerful (and the media) complicit in his lies and fraud, but also the ability to get a large number of ordinary people to believe his Big Lies.
 
Trump doesn't pay his contractors as a matter of policy - he agrees on a price for the work, and when it's done "renegotiates" for much less or an extended lawsuits.
There are countless stories of people who got shafted by Trump after working hard for him.

If you want that kind of person for your leader, it tells me all I need to know about you.
 
Sherkeu said:
Too bad she is sort of an idiot when she speaks in person. She came from my state and I am so sorry for it. It is usually the DEI crap that allows her stupid comment to be filtered through some "expect less" filter so no one tells it like it is for fear of being 'RACIST!!'
If she was a white man she would be much less articulate than Bush #2. And of course, so unlikeable.
Btw... She is not an African American by descent, so why do people care about her color so much? She is a daughter of foreign immigrants, the black one one descended from Jamaican slave owners. None born in USA.
The narrative should be her capabilities and merit- but she can't sell it that way because those stories have big recent failures.
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Yes, I’m looking forward to the GOP completely not caring about her colour. Can you promise right now that you won’t jump on the inevitable birther bandwagon with the rest of the MAGAts when that gets rolling? Or will it be a case of “hmmm… it turns out that there are serious questions about that after all….”
 
angrysoba said:
Yes, I’m looking forward to the GOP completely not caring about her colour. Can you promise right now that you won’t jump on the inevitable birther bandwagon with the rest of the MAGAts when that gets rolling? Or will it be a case of “hmmm… it turns out that there are serious questions about that after all….”
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^^^ I don't even know what this means. ???
Birther theory for Kamala? Born where?? Sounds like some newly invented whackjob idea. Doubt it would see any traction.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Trump is a master communicator, you just refuse to acknowledge it. You don't get to Billionaire status without being able to communicate. It's delusional to believe otherwise.
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Yes, Trump is a "master communicator".

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Solitaire said:
Whoa!

First a cold, then corona virus, before you know it, it'll be a contagious cancer.

It's often been remarked that political office is known to kill those work in it, after forty, fifty, or even sixty years...
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Actually, I am not surprised at all.

A tremendous burden has been lifted from Biden, and that is often the time when the immune system gives it a rest, too, for a moment.

I spend my last week, which was the first week of holiday for me, with a nasty throat infection.
 
angrysoba said:
Yes, I’m looking forward to the GOP completely not caring about her colour. Can you promise right now that you won’t jump on the inevitable birther bandwagon with the rest of the MAGAts when that gets rolling? Or will it be a case of “hmmm… it turns out that there are serious questions about that after all….”
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IMO it's more likely that the GOP will claim that she's not a legitimate candidate because she didn't win the Democratic Party primary.

In he eventually that she wins the election they may use this to challenge the result in court and given the current makeup of SCOTUS, that legal challenge might eventually be successful.
 
The Don said:
IMO it's more likely that the GOP will claim that she's not a legitimate candidate because she didn't win the Democratic Party primary.

In he eventually that she wins the election they may use this to challenge the result in court and given the current makeup of SCOTUS, that legal challenge might eventually be successful.
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GOP can beat Kamala easily. They don't need any gimmick.
She will be given kid gloves for the next 4 weeks.
If the Demoratic party wants to win this cycle (as they say it is imperative to do!) they will try to replace her. They should demand she is replaced
 
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