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Cont: 2024 Election Thread part 3

Samson said:
They will elect a woman with the IQ of a Bill Clinton, you can be sure of that.
They will never elect a woman like Kamala Harris.
Can't you see the problem?
She was quota'd into law and failed the bar exam first shot.
She was lazy and unprepared for work as VP and burned through staff who tired of covering for her.
She was unelectable with the benefit of foresight.
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So, Trump compared to her faults is fine. He just has some minor quirks here and there.
Yeah, right...
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
Four years? I think at this stage the end of the neo nazi republican rule will only come at the bottom of a fuhrerbunker, just like last time.

I wish every sane American luck, ye'll need tons of it.
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I'm going to hold on to the faith that the United States is stronger than that. Trump is going to do a lot of damage for sure, but I'm going to maintain hope that democracy will survive and Trump will be gone in four years.
If we're lucky, the consequences will convince enough people that they made a mistake and the political pendulum will swing back.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
The only constructive reaction to T****y "winning" in Europe is to create our own defensive alliance and abandon NATO. It is now not worth the paper it's written on.

Let the EU take on the weight of its true power at last.
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EU is nothing in terms of military. Only a few countries have nukes and they surely won't use them for let's say Poland.
NATO is done without the USA.
 
carlosy said:
EU is nothing in terms of military.
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Not sure what makes you say that. The only reason for NATO to exist at the moment is russia, and we outproduce them by a huge margin. Their GDP equals Italy or Spain. They have been better at producing ammunition and whatnot recently, but nothing we can't retool our industry to meet.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Not sure what makes you say that. The only reason for NATO to exist at the moment is russia, and we outproduce them by a huge margin. Their GDP equals Italy or Spain. They have been better at producing ammunition and whatnot recently, but nothing we can't retool our industry to meet.
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Russia, at the height of it's power, would have been a problem. My impression is that it's really not the military force it once was (or appeared to be).

China, however...
 
Samson said:
They will elect a woman with the IQ of a Bill Clinton, you can be sure of that.
They will never elect a woman like Kamala Harris.
Can't you see the problem?
She was quota'd into law and failed the bar exam first shot.
She was lazy and unprepared for work as VP and burned through staff who tired of covering for her.
She was unelectable with the benefit of foresight.
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Well they didn't elect Hilary and by all accounts she was the really bright one in that marriage.

On the bar exam front, it's designed to be hard and has a high failure rate. It is not unusual for people to take several attempts to pass it. I'm not a massive Kamala fan but to suggest she's unelectable due to lack of intelligence when thick as pig ◊◊◊◊ Donald Trump just got elected is an absolute joke.
 
Explorer said:
I don't feel sorry Harris or the Democrats, I feel sorry for us in Europe, especially eastern Europe and Zelensky. Putin must be cracking open his bottle of vintage champagne he has saved for this, in celebration. Oh well, the silver lining over here is that this no doubt will help unite Europe more tightly, and may even be a trigger for the UK to look at rejoining the EU again.
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Long before Trump reached 270 the Danish PM - a social democrat, and a woman: everything Trump hates - send her congratulations. Leading a small country, she probably thinks that Finlandisation is the best option now.
 
Republicans just wanted it more.
They were willing to sacrifice their dignity, logic, humanity and future of their country to elect Trump.

Democrats only wanted to win if it didn't involve any concessions.
 
rdaneel said:
I'm going to hold on to the faith that the United States is stronger than that. Trump is going to do a lot of damage for sure, but I'm going to maintain hope that democracy will survive and Trump will be gone in four years.
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Didn’t Trump promise there will be no more elections?
rdaneel said:
If we're lucky, the consequences will convince enough people that they made a mistake and the political pendulum will swing back.
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Last time the swing of the pendulum was so tiny that Biden only barely won.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Not sure what makes you say that. The only reason for NATO to exist at the moment is russia, and we outproduce them by a huge margin. Their GDP equals Italy or Spain. They have been better at producing ammunition and whatnot recently, but nothing we can't retool our industry to meet.
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Right now, yes. But Russia is in full military mode, the things they are to produce will be ready in a few years and it doesn't give a ◊◊◊◊ about GDP. Comparing GDP only works if the leader isn't willing to slaughter his own people in meat waves over and over. Barely any country in the EU would be willing to go to such length.
 
As I say, it's the popular vote that depresses me. It would be easier to live with the fact that a majority of Americans rejected Trump but the quirks of the electoral college let him in because it happened / it's designed to concentrate supporters in the right place but the fact that a majority seem to support him is depressing beyond belief.
 
Well, it's a pretty sad day. We can probably survive 4 more years of Trump, but this could (and likely will) affect the Supreme Court for decades to come. Clarence Thomas was nominated by George Bush in 1991 (somehow I misremembered that he was nominated by Reagan, so I'm glad that I double-checked that). He's been on the bench for 33 years now. He can retire and be replaced by another conservative who could still be on the court three decades from now. He's 76 and Alito is 74, so they could both retire and ensure that the court stays under conservative control for many decades into the future. There's 4 other conservative justices if you count Roberts and 3 are still in their 50s and could easily serve for another 15 to 20 years unless they want to retire.
 
Well, the good news (if you want to call it that) is that if anything bad happens, we can now blame it on trump. Of course, the hypocrite, maga weirdoes will still try to blame it on Biden and Harris.


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jt512 said:
Trump will quickly bring the war to an end. There will be a negotiated solution. Ukraine will lose territory, but the people of Kiew will be able to sleep in peace.
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Putin will ensure Trump agrees to totally unequal terms and then Putin will completely ignore them. The war will continue by other means but Ukraine will have little power to stop Putin.
 
steenkh said:
Didn’t Trump promise there will be no more elections?
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Trump would need an amendment ratified by 3/4ths of both houses of Congress and 3/4ths of the states, which has a snowballs chance in hell of passing.
Otherwise, he'd need a military coup, which I'd rate at even less of chance.
steenkh said:
Last time the swing of the pendulum was so tiny that Biden only barely won.
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Trump has even less holding him back than last time, which means he'll take even bigger swings, like Project 2025. I'm speculating that when many of those who voted for him realize he's actually going to do it and that it's going to hurt them, they're going to turn against him.
And yes, I do realize this may be wishful thinking.
 
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