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The Atheist said:
I confess that I love the Tampon Tim nickname.

Trump thinks it's a slur, when it's actually reminder to every woman in America that MAGA are misogynist *****, while the Dems actually respect women's rights and issues.

Please keep using it!
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I was going to post something similar
 
Steve said:
"Low information" is too kind. Call them what they are - low intelligence
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I disagree. Many don't have low intelligence but that simply don't care about politics and just go on soundbites and their gut.

It's the equivalent of my interest in horse racing - basically zero - but I place a bet on the Grand National from time to time. I'm similarly poorly informed and make a similarity poor decision. The consequences however are much, much less.
 
Horse Racing doesn't affect people's lives.

"LOL they just don't care LOL" isn't the excuse people are treating it as.

Intellectual laziness is as bad as intellectual wrongness.

And you show 10 "LOL I don't care about politics" types and I'll show you a bare minimum of 6 or 7 people who "don't care" but still manage to always make things worse for people.

It's like old people who "aren't good with them new fangled computers." They still know it enough to break stuff, just not fix it.
 
Trump's flip-flopping on abortion right:

1990: "I'm very pro-choice.

2016: "Some form of punishment" for women who seek abortions.

2018: Supports 20-week abortion ban.

March 2024: Says he's considering 15-week ban.

April 2024: Says abortion should be left to the states.

August 24: Suggests he will vote "for more than 6 weeks" in FL.
 
The Don said:
I disagree. Many don't have low intelligence but that simply don't care about politics and just go on soundbites and their gut.

It's the equivalent of my interest in horse racing - basically zero - but I place a bet on the Grand National from time to time. I'm similarly poorly informed and make a similarity poor decision. The consequences however are much, much less.
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MAGA and those who attend his rallies are not low-information voters and are definitely interested in politics. That makes them either low-intelligence or incredibly intellectually dishonest.
 
JayUtah said:
Last time I was there, you couldn't just wander around the grounds. If you are a general visitor or a tourist, you're put on a bus and given the bus tour. The bus drops you off at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, which is the only place you can get off. You can stay there as long as you want, but you have to board the bus to get back to the gate. That was pre-pandemic, though.

The bus tour guide is quite vigilant and will tell you what you can photograph and what you can't (e.g., funerals in progress). And they will yell at you not to photograph if it looks like that's what you're about to do. There's no wink-wink-nudge-nudge.

Visitation and photography policies are different if you're a relative of someone interred there, or if you've planned to visit specific graves. The reason the cemetery provides photographers for your visit in that case is that they're trained on how to photograph just you (and not neighboring mourners) and just the graves you have an interest in. The graves for people most recently lost will tend to be visited by the closest and most emotionally attached relatives. The cemetery's concern is that your private mourning not show up on someone else's social media feed.

Because the Trump team photographed persons and graves that were not part of their group and widely published them, they violated both the spirit and the letter of the law restricting photography in certain sections. These are not rules that families or visitors can waive for important guests. These are separate from the general rules forbidding anyone from using photograph at the cemetery for campaign purposes.

I've taken several beautiful photographs in the cemetery. You can't help but want to. The changing of the guard ceremony is commonly videoed and photographed with the cemetery's blessing so long as you otherwise observe the decorum, which means remaining silent and standing in the designated areas.
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They have tightned up quite a bit since I was there then; you could pretty much walk around as you pleased. There were guided tours, but they were optional.
Ihope they modigy this, since people want to see graves other then the Tomb of unknowns.
One of my favorites is the Grave of Lee Marvin the actor, he chose to be burried in Arlingotn rather then the fancy cemetaries in Hollywood; this service as a US Marine in the Pacific (where he was badly wounded) meant a lot to him.
I just checked the Arlington website, and appaenty they have gone back to the pre covid system. The whole bus routine seems to have been only during the pandemic.
 
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Stacyhs said:
Trump's flip-flopping on abortion right:

1990: "I'm very pro-choice.

2016: "Some form of punishment" for women who seek abortions.

2018: Supports 20-week abortion ban.

March 2024: Says he's considering 15-week ban.

April 2024: Says abortion should be left to the states.

August 24: Suggests he will vote "for more than 6 weeks" in FL.
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Any date on when he boasted about ended Roe v Wade?
 
Stacyhs said:
Trump's flip-flopping on abortion right:

1990: "I'm very pro-choice.

2016: "Some form of punishment" for women who seek abortions.

2018: Supports 20-week abortion ban.

March 2024: Says he's considering 15-week ban.

April 2024: Says abortion should be left to the states.

August 24: Suggests he will vote "for more than 6 weeks" in FL.
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Today, he flopped again on the Florida referendum.
 
I expect a certian amount of flip flopping from a politician, they all do it, I am sure Harris has done it at times.
But in the case of Trump, it gets ridiculous.
 
dudalb said:
I expect a certian amount of flip flopping from a politician, they all do it, I am sure Harris has done it at times.
But in the case of Trump, it gets ridiculous.
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People do change their minds based on new information, etc. but not the kind of constant flip-flopping Trump does. Trump doesn't change his mind on things as much as he just says whatever pops into his head depending on the audience and what he thinks works for him at that specific moment. His opinions and policies are guided by one overriding factor to all else: what works for me right now ?
 
If anyone is wondering how Trump, a convicted felon, can vote at all in the FL election:

Though Florida law doesn’t explicitly mention state-by-state differences depending on where a conviction takes place, the Florida Division of Elections has made clear that, according to its interpretation, “A felony conviction in another state makes a person ineligible to vote in Florida only if the conviction would make the person ineligible to vote in the state where the person was convicted.”

And according to New York law, Trump’s voting rights would only be affected if he is actively in prison for a felony.
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JayUtah said:
I'm just remembering it wrong. Yours seems to be the common experience.
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We all do it Jay. I'm guessing you went on a tour. I'm petty sure they try and keep people from wandering off from the tour group so maybe that's why you remember it that way.
 
acbytesla said:
We all do it Jay. I'm guessing you went on a tour. I'm petty sure they try and keep people from wandering off from the tour group so maybe that's why you remember it that way.
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I would like to know when Jay was there. He could have went there when there were restrictions in place because of Covid.
But he should definetly return when he is NOT on a guided bus tour. it inot like Arlington is hard to get to, they have a DC Metro stop right at the entrance of the Avenue of Heros, the formal road to the main entrance.
You have several entrances to Arllington, another one is right in front of the famous US Marines Memorial statue.
The Avenue of Heros is a road lined with statues and mounuments leading to the main entrance, which is right by the VIsitors Center.
That was where they filmed the Funeral procession for Superman in 'Batman Vs Superman:.
 
acbytesla said:
We all do it Jay. I'm guessing you went on a tour. I'm petty sure they try and keep people from wandering off from the tour group so maybe that's why you remember it that way.
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Yeah. I always take the Metro there. I’m sure last time I just jumped on a tram tour when I got there and fixed that in my mind as the Way Things Are. I’m due for another NASM visit soon, and I think I’ll add a day for ANC to refresh my memory.
 
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