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Cont: 2024 Election Thread part 2

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MAGA leaders have pretty much declared that they don't care about winning voters. They plan to win the election through the packed judicial branch.
 
We're going to be doing an autopsy on polling in 2016 to determine if it was a red herring or a canary in the coal mine probably for decades. We're still too close to it historically. As time goes on 2016 is going to be a PolySci/Statistics and Polling thinkpiece for decades.

In the abstract it's a good thing that the America public can't be moneyballed well enough to be wholly predictable, I just hope the unpredictability starts breaking our way more often.
 
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MAGA leaders have pretty much declared that they don't care about winning voters. They plan to win the election through the packed judicial branch.
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Yes. They have no intentions of following the will of the voters. They've said the quiet part out loud enough times.
 
Are we SURE Trump isn't a member on this board? He's doing the "Oopsie sometimes I forget to spell" thing really well.
 
newyorkguy said:
trump has also been ignoring the advice of his fellow Republicans to stop with the 'Steal' rants and personal insults directed towards Kamala Harris and start discussing issues and policies. But I don't think trump can do that. He doesn't have policies, for one thing. He only has 'talking points.' trump has threatened to close the border with Mexico. That's a talking point not a policy. Imagine a press conference where a reporter asks:




trump has no answer for that. He can't get too specific, as the Republicans are urging. He has no specifics. All he has is rhetoric.
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To be fair, he's probably right in not discussing policy because the repugs have no way to win on policy. "**** you, I got mine!" is not a vote winning slogan.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The fact that we were so sure (yes we were, shut up) that Trump was going to lose in 2016 was a large part of how he was able to hurt us so bad. Don't meal prep the crow.
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Funny you should say all that to me - it was me who started the thread for Democrats to eat crow before the 2016 election.

This time - no chance.
 
Stacyhs said:
I just watched a video of 8 undecided voters living in eastern PA. After watching Harris' speech on Thursday night, 6 said they'd decided to vote for Harris, one said she would likely not vote at all, and one said he was voting for Trump. Interestingly, the one man who said he was voting for Trump said he didn't think Harris was "ready" and should wait. Apparently, being a senator and a VP isn't "ready" enough but Trump causing chaos, division, being a felon, sexual abuser and inciting a coup makes him "ready".
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Turns out, he wasn't so undecided. Good job, CNN!
 
Trump's base seems to be half built out of cowards who won't admit they support him.

It's just rare to see a "I'm not a Trumper, don't you dare call me a Trumper, oh I'm totally a Trumper" in the real world and not like, here on this board.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Obama was a good President. George W. Bush was a bad President. But both of them left office different people. The weight of what responsibility they held and power they wielded got to them on some level. Obama left office obviously less idealistic, and Bush left office more mature. And both men were... I don't want to say "humbled" because that has specific negative connotations, I'm not trying to put across but something like it. "Perspectived" if I may be forgiven for verbing a noun is close, I think.

Hell, I honestly don't think that Trump understands that people don't like him in a real, true, human emotional level. I honestly think that turd still wakes up every morning thinking there are only two types of people; people who worship and "haters" who only hate him because they are jealous but deep down inside want to be him.

I could never like Trump on any level or give him the single moment of respect, but if he would just show one single brief moment of self-reflection that would be something. Some tiny moment of humanity one could connect with if only on the hypothetical or philosophical level.

But the bastard won't even give us THAT.
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the letters from the last few presidents to their successors have been published and among the common threads are "you are president for all Ameircans, not just the ones who voted for you" and also a sense of awe at how big the office is and how small they all felt upon assuming it. Imagine men from the Bush family, who spent their entire existenses in the upper echelons of power, being humbled.

Can you see Trump expressing any throughts like that?
 
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Stacyhs said:
I just watched a video of 8 undecided voters living in eastern PA. After watching Harris' speech on Thursday night, 6 said they'd decided to vote for Harris, one said she would likely not vote at all, and one said he was voting for Trump. Interestingly, the one man who said he was voting for Trump said he didn't think Harris was "ready" and should wait. Apparently, being a senator and a VP isn't "ready" enough but Trump causing chaos, division, being a felon, sexual abuser and inciting a coup makes him "ready".
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Was that the CNN "undecided" voter who was later shown to be a long-time Trump supporter?
 
Stacyhs said:
I just watched a video of 8 undecided voters living in eastern PA. After watching Harris' speech on Thursday night, 6 said they'd decided to vote for Harris, one said she would likely not vote at all, and one said he was voting for Trump. Interestingly, the one man who said he was voting for Trump said he didn't think Harris was "ready" and should wait. Apparently, being a senator and a VP isn't "ready" enough but Trump causing chaos, division, being a felon, sexual abuser and inciting a coup makes him "ready".
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Donal said:
Turns out, he wasn't so undecided. Good job, CNN!
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Does this surprise any of us?

How many times have we read posters claiming to be undecided or even saying they are voting democrat and yet post almost non-stop Trump/Republican talking points?
 
acbytesla said:
Does this surprise any of us?

How many times have we read posters claiming to be undecided or even saying they are voting democrat and yet post almost non-stop Trump/Republican talking points?
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I have a friend who's never voted for Trump. Despises him even. Yet will spout the FOX slant and supports practically every vile idea Trump has had from the Wall to banning Muslim entry into the country to the tariffs and disastrous economic policies.

In his mind there's worse than Trump: Democrats.
 
pgwenthold said:
Was that the CNN "undecided" voter who was later shown to be a long-time Trump supporter?
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Yep! I had a funny feeling about him not being on the up and up because Harris' speech making an undecided voter at this stage go for Trump didn't make any sense to me.
 
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