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Skeptic Ginger said:
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I'm against Biden but this is crap without context.
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As expected, context puts it in a somewhat different light:

Morrison: …And that’s a lot of what the book is about — the public service that your son [Beau Biden] did, as well as you and your family. His commanding general in Iraq said he expected that your son would be leading the country one day. And yet, public service seems now not to be held in very high esteem. [Audience laughs].
Biden: No, it’s not. And — no, it’s no just because — I’ll be very blunt — it’s not just because of our president, it’s a whole lot of things…

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Biden: …I only had two political heroes in my whole life — and this is not new, I’ve said this since 1972 — Dr. [Martin Luther] King and Robert Kennedy. And up to that point there was a war raging, there was a bitter fight over even whether we should talk about the environment, women were still viewed as second-class citizens and not prepared to have significant jobs — thought that. And we were told — people didn’t talk to one another over the war — and we were told ‘Drop out, go out to Haight-Ashbury, get engaged.’ You know, shortly after I graduated in ’68, Kent State, 17 kids shot dead. And so, the younger generation now tells me how tough things are — give me a break! [Audience laughs and applauds]. No no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break. Because here’s the deal, guys — we decided we were going to change the world, and we did. We did. We finished the civil rights movement to the first stage. The women’s movement came into being. So my message is ‘Get involved.’ There’s no place to hide. You can go out and you can make all the money in the world, but you can’t build a wall high enough to keep the pollution out. You can’t not be diminished when your sister can’t marry the man or woman, the woman she loves. You can’t — when you have a good friend being profiled — you can’t escape this stuff. And so, there’s an old expression my philosophy professor would always use, from Plato: The penalty good people pay for not being involved in politics is being governed by people worse than themselves. It’s wide open, go out and change it.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-no-empathy/
 
From Biden's quote:

"You know, shortly after I graduated in ’68, Kent State, 17 kids shot dead."

"Seventeen dead in Ohio" doesn't have the same ring to it.
 
Watched the debate. Warren will beat Trump. People do not hate her, she is not going to take away your guns and Mitch McConnel will prevent socialism.

Amy Klobuchar a possible VP pick for someone.
 
Can't say I'm shocled. Warren was the best of the night, Booker and Castro did well, most others were mostly just...eeehhh, with one or two solid points.

Worst Performance, naturally, goes to Chuck Todd.
 
The_Animus said:
I don't think the context makes it any better.
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No, in fact I feel like the statement sours the context it was made in.

If he'd laid out the list of major moments from his activist youth and set them alongside this generations as one continuous struggle (instead of making it a pissing match and dismissing the entire concept of caring about the problems of this generation) it would have been golden.
 
Congratulations on Biden for trotting out his highlight reel from 50 years ago.

The name of the game is 'what have you done for me lately."

Right now the broadest metric (aside from inherited wealth) of income stratification is age.

A major driver of the profit, profit, profit mentality is Boomer retirement portfolios.

Imagine, if you will, a snake eating its own tail. This is America.
 
Whether context matters or not, we should be citing sources so we don't end up echoing false information around.

Back to the debates, it was much too short. Here is a breakdown of who got the most time.
Cory Booker – 11 minutes
Beto O’Rourke – 10.3 minutes
Elizabeth Warren – 9.3 minutes
Julian Castro – 9 minutes
Amy Klobuchar – 8.5 minutes
Tim Ryan – 7.8 minutes
John Delaney – 6.5 minutes
Tulsi Gabbard – 6.5 minutes
Bill de Blasio 5.5 minutes
Jay Inslee – 5 minutes
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Louder deeper voices interrupting got more time.

Gabbard didn't sound that bad. She disowned her past. What issue do people have with her?

Warren had a great opening. I just wish she had more time to explain her tax ideas.
 
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SezMe said:
Who (or what) is Rose twitter?
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The progressive wing that supports Bernie and Tulsi....for some reason put rose emojis in their names on Twitter. I tend to block them on sight since all they do is bellow out accusations that everyone is a "neoliberal" "centrist" "warmonger" except their anointed candidates.
 
Mayor de Blasio had an outstanding first response. Almost like he rehearsed that as a generic answer. In any case it passed the ear test.
 
Travis said:
The progressive wing that supports Bernie and Tulsi....for some reason put rose emojis in their names on Twitter. I tend to block them on sight since all they do is bellow out accusations that everyone is a "neoliberal" "centrist" "warmonger" except their anointed candidates.
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It's a popular symbol for socialism and related causes.
 
I caught about 60% of the debate. Castro did very well. He'd probably be a good candidate for VP. No one really had a good answer for how they would deal with Mitch. Biggest news for me was Warren calling for abolishing private health insurance. Realistically, like how Obama campaigned on a public option we didn't get, if she won we would probably end up with a public option, if anything was passed at all.
 
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