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Travis said:
Maybe I'm out of touch but why shouldn't prisoners be allowed to vote? Are they not still citizens?
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Well there is a bunch of other rights they don't have or are at least heavily restricted, some far more essential than being able to vote.

Their most important rights behind bars are freedom from cruel and unusual punishment and due process.

I don't know why Sanders is pushing so hard for the right to vote from behind bars. I'd rather we expand protections for the formerly incarcerated.
 
Venom said:
I don't know why Sanders is pushing so hard for the right to vote from behind bars. I'd rather we expand protections for the formerly incarcerated.
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Not to mention that this is a matter that the Supreme Court has already ruled is up to the individual states. Thus any attempt to allow prisoners to vote nationally is going to require a constitutional amendment.
 
Travis said:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...Harris-or-Buttigieg-win?utm_campaign=trending


So, you already know that Bernie supporters were asked how they'd vote if Warren was nominee and 26% said they'd prefer Trump. Well a deeper dive into the poll is quite interesting. They were actually asked how they'd vote if the following were the Democratic nominee and the percentage that would prefer to vote Trump is:


Warren: 26%
Buttigieg: 21%
Beto:18%
Harris: 17%


So, Bernie supporters really hate Warren and Buttigieg and are somewhat warmer towards Beto and Harris. But what about the other way around? Supporters of the following candidates were asked how they'd vote if Sanders won the nomination and the following percentage would switch to voting for Trump:


Warren: 6%
Buttigieg: 0-1%
Harris: 2%
Beto: 9%

So, interesting. Bernie's fans are much, much more prone to switch to vote for Orange Hitler than the supporters of any of the other Democratic candidates.
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Sanders could be the best candidate to take votes from Trump, then. That’s worth bearing in mind.
 
I'm no DNC consultant, but a good answer to a question about prisoners voting would be to redirect things to non-violent drug offenders who could be paroled / commuted to vote outside of prison.
 
Belz... said:
As far as I'm concerned, if you've served whatever sentence you were given as a result of your crimes, then you are a full citizen again, including the right to vote. Besides, these laws seem somewhat targeted against minorities.
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Me too.
 
Belz... said:
As far as I'm concerned, if you've served whatever sentence you were given as a result of your crimes, then you are a full citizen again, including the right to vote. Besides, these laws seem somewhat targeted against minorities.
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Agreed. Bernie took it a bold step further though, advocating that the worst criminals should have voting rights while still in prison.
 
varwoche said:
Agreed. Bernie took it a bold step further though, advocating that the worst criminals should have voting rights while still in prison.
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You know I wouldn't even have a problem with prisoners voting except for the impact they would have on where the prisons were located. I mean they could create a sizable voting block in small communities where they have no history. It's one thing for them to be able to vote for statewide and Presidential elections, but it seems wrong for them to he able to influence the local elections.
 
acbytesla said:
You know I wouldn't even have a problem with prisoners voting except for the impact they would have on where the prisons were located. I mean they could create a sizable voting block in small communities where they have no history. It's one thing for them to be able to vote for statewide and Presidential elections, but it seems wrong for them to he able to influence the local elections.
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Then imprison fewer people.
 
acbytesla said:
You know I wouldn't even have a problem with prisoners voting except for the impact they would have on where the prisons were located. I mean they could create a sizable voting block in small communities where they have no history. It's one thing for them to be able to vote for statewide and Presidential elections, but it seems wrong for them to he able to influence the local elections.
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Being a prisoner doesn't change your address for residence purposes.
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
Being a prisoner doesn't change your address for residence purposes.
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Then I would be fine with it. I believe if you're an American citizen you not only should have an inviolable right to participate in the process but an obligation to.
 
acbytesla said:
Then I would be fine with it. I believe if you're an American citizen you not only should have an inviolable right to participate in the process but an obligation to.
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So, you would have been quite happy for Timothy McVeigh to vote while he was on death row?

Chuck Manson? Tick that box, mate. Bernie Madoff? Step right up.
 
The Atheist said:
So, you would have been quite happy for Timothy McVeigh to vote while he was on death row?

Chuck Manson? Tick that box, mate. Bernie Madoff? Step right up.
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McVeigh would probably have a useless vote for a right wing party, say, The Very Fine Volks Party. Chuck would waste his vote on Chuck. Bernie might vote GOP.
 
The Atheist said:
So, you would have been quite happy for Timothy McVeigh to vote while he was on death row?

Chuck Manson? Tick that box, mate. Bernie Madoff? Step right up.
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Those were despicable people. Totally deserving of their sentences. But I think a principle is at stake. Voting is sacred and it's our duty not just our right to vote. I'm sickened by those that fail to do their civic duty. I may not like your vote or anything else about an individual but I believe everyone should vote. In Australia it's illegal not to vote.
 
theprestige said:
Why should people who set themselves against society not have a say in the ordering of that society?
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Well, they can still become an elected official, including President.
Wouldn't it make more sense to take the passive right to vote before you take the active one?
 
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