smartcooky
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OK, so the Senate is effectively 51-50, so all the committees follow suit?
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OK, so the Senate is effectively 51-50, so all the committees follow suit?
Skeptic Ginger
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Does it matter if McConnell gets an extra week?
But with Warnock seated and Perdue challenging the election, I believe that makes it 49/49 because Perdue's term expired.
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Yes.
Segnosaur
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According to Wikipedia, the 2009 Al Franken election 1) had a much narrower margin of less than 1000 votes, 2) actually had active legal cases going on regarding some disputed ballots that seemed to have SOME validity, and 3) the governor of Minnesota hadn't signed off on the certification.
I am not sure if the same issues will apply here... The margin of victory in the Ossoff election is much larger, and given the Republican's track record of court challenges, I assume any lawsuit they bring will probably be dismissed fairly quickly. And I doubt Moscow Mitch would really have much legal ground to block him if/when he gets certified.
Extra week, indeed doesn't matter.
If Perdue manages to drag it out for months, as in Minnesota in 2009, yes, it does matter.
Let's hope it doesn't happen.
With Warnock seated and Perdue challenging the election, it's 50 R - 49 D.
(Just playing my part in the "Dems in disarray" meme here.
Let's hope it's an academic discussion, and that Ossoff is seated soon enough.)
Let's hope.
An added element is that it's doubtful the Georgia Governor and Secretary of State will do much to help Perdue, after he throw them under the bus over the election "fraud" in Georgia.
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timhau
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312, out of nearly 3 million votes cast. You had to go to the second decimal of percentage points to get a difference. Ossoff's margin is now over 12,000 votes and likely to grow.
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DevilsAdvocate
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Perdue could be playing a dangerous game. He isn't going to win in the end. It would just postpone Democrats getting the majority. If McConnell and Republicans use that delay to hinder Biden, once Ossoff does get seated it is much more likely that Democrats will decide that it is payback time.
With Democrats in control of the House, Senate, and Presidency they can do a lot against Republicans. The only limitations are their will and how the public will respond. If they get pushed too far, Democrats will push back.
Democrats have a lot of weapons they could use. Expand the Supreme Court. Give statehood to to Puerto Rico and Washington DC. Pass laws controlling gerrymandering for Congressional districts based on the 2020 census. Amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants with a path to citizenship.
Why not all of that?
Just kidding.
They can do a lot, but they need Manchin, Sinema, ea on board.
And deal with that stupid filibuster.
Still, here you are, within a few weeks of a Democratic trifecta in DC. Let's savour the moment.
Stacyhs
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Ossoff now leads by over 16,000.
angrysoba
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If Ossoff wins will this make him the first Millennial* in the Senate?
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timhau
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It may not even go to an automatic recount. If the trigger is a winning margin of <0.5 %, that translates to roughly 22,500 votes.
BTW, in November Perdue was only 13,471 votes short of winning the race outright.
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The all-knowing NYT Needle still predicts a 1.1% win for Ossoff.
smartcooky
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Bonus: And he will have kicked a crook out of the Senate!
Is that definitely the case? As I understand it, the makeup of the Senate is now 50R, 48D and 2 Independent.
Practically, it's a 50-50 split, as the independents normally vote D, but how does that impact the Majority Leader? Republicans are still the largest party.
Venom
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Josh Hawley is the first Millenial in the Senate at 41, the older end of Millenial. The big brothers who taught us how to play Nintendo 64 Millenial-Gen X group of guys.
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Why not all of that?
Just kidding.
They can do a lot, but they need Manchin, Sinema, ea on board.
That is my point. Democrats can't do those really radical things because many Democrats won't go along with it and doing those things basically requires every Democrat to be on board.
The more Republicans ignore even any semblance of honor or respect or duty, the more those fence-sitting Democrats will be willing to go against their principles and just do what it takes to go against the Republicans. If Republicans are going to consistently do it when they have even a slight margin of power, then that should be balanced by the same actions when the power is reversed.
Republicans have pushed it very far to the limits in denying Obama federal judge appointments, and using procedural measures to gut the Affordable Care Act while spending years yammering to repeal and replace when they didn't actually have a replacement, and denying a Supreme Court seat and giving one to Trump under the same circumstances, and so on and son on.
Trump has done everything he can on elections with trying to work with Russians and now dozens and dozens of lawsuits and cajoling state official to try to overturn the election he lost.
There is a point where those Democrats on the fence decide...forget it. We've had enough. They have done too much. Time for payback to balance things out. Just push things trough.
Perdue fighting this election may be the straw on that camel's back.
I see your point. Interesting times for sure.
a_unique_person
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Mitch has been nervous for two months now.
timhau
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Both independents caucus with the Democrats. Hell, one of them even tried to get their presidential nomination.