Merged 2019-nCoV / Corona virus

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alfaniner said:
Later I was getting on an elevator and the lady at the back handling somebody's wheelchair let out a hacking cough, covering only with her hand. I stepped backwards out of the lift and took the next one.
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The next same elevator? Droplets, man. Take the stairs. ;)

The lack of awareness among people is astounding.
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You can say that again. People just don't seem to think about consequences very much.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Fortunately I have half of them left (plenty for me) I was going to send to someone else but the fires went out before I did.

Just remember not to touch the outside of the mask after you've worn it. This takes some practice. I'm letting mine sit on top of the radiator before using that one again. Heat kills the virus, freezing does not.
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Can you explain how freezing the virus does not kill it, considering the expanding water-ice will burst the virion? Am I wrong there?
 
Darat said:
You misunderstood my post. I said "in effect" not that they had a plan to use force to infect individuals. But by isolating their towns it has allowed the infection to spread in a town, none of the precautions will prevent the majority of the people in that area getting infected, they will simply slow it down a little. So they will (as long as reinfection isn't a major issue) have a town ready to completely reopen. Whereas in somewhere like the UK we will have outbreaks all over the entire country for months and months causing large scale continuous disruption across the entire country.
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I don't think this is right.

My understanding is that people in most areas are forced to stay inside and are not allowed to mingle with others.

The purpose is to prevent any increased infections. As far as I understand there are supposed to be somewhere in the region of 50-100 million people in lockdown, and yet apparently only around 80,000 cases. When the WHO's Bruce Aylward went out to China, he said that there were no vast numbers of people infected that had not been accounted for.

I have not even seen it written anywhere that the effect is for millions of people in China to become infected.
 
I find myself alternating between feelings of complacency and panic. Will this be no big deal, or will a million Americans die? Will commerce grind to a halt as people don't want to risk going out?

I'm always amused at apocalyptic movie scenes where civilization is falling apart, and people are driving everywhere in their cars. Sure, civilization is collapsing, but truck drivers and gas station attendants are staying on the job?

In the end, I'm proceeding with business as usual, but there's a growing anxiety that either the disease itself or the panic about the disease will make life very bad in coming weeks.

And what does it mean for the rest of the Robotics season? I suspect that the rest of you might be more concerned or aware about basketball.
 
angrysoba said:
I don't think this is right.

My understanding is that people in most areas are forced to stay inside and are not allowed to mingle with others.
The purpose is to prevent any increased infections. As far as I understand there are supposed to be somewhere in the region of 50-100 million people in lockdown, and yet apparently only around 80,000 cases. When the WHO's Bruce Aylward went out to China, he said that there were no vast numbers of people infected that had not been accounted for.

I have not even seen it written anywhere that the effect is for millions of people in China to become infected.
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As is mine.

All they are doing is slowing the rate of infection.

If the predictions I've read by the virologists that up to 70% of the world population will get infected then all we can do is to slow the spread so we can "cope" with the infections. Having a million infections in a month is very different to having a million infections but over 12 months. The Chinese do seem to have been able to stop the million in a week scenario and thus total collapse.
 
There seems to be little information on the length of time between initial symptoms and recovery. The effects on hospital bed occupancy and reduction of workforce are dependent on not on the numbers, but how long they're out for.
 
sphenisc said:
There seems to be little information on the length of time between initial symptoms and recovery. The effects on hospital bed occupancy and reduction of workforce are dependent on not on the numbers, but how long they're out for.
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True.
 
Yesterday at work we received orders for 720 cases of a disinfectant that normally averages 100 cases a month. Silver lining ... I guess.
 
Meadmaker said:
I'm always amused at apocalyptic movie scenes where civilization is falling apart, and people are driving everywhere in their cars. Sure, civilization is collapsing, but truck drivers and gas station attendants are staying on the job?
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The other thing that gets missed in apocalyptic and especially post-apocalyptic movies is bicycles. There are a LOT of bicycles around, they are way faster than walking, and cars won't keep working for long after civilization collapses.
 
Darat said:
As is mine.

All they are doing is slowing the rate of infection.

If the predictions I've read by the virologists that up to 70% of the world population will get infected then all we can do is to slow the spread so we can "cope" with the infections. Having a million infections in a month is very different to having a million infections but over 12 months. The Chinese do seem to have been able to stop the million in a week scenario and thus total collapse.
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I guess it will be pretty hard to wrong on that. From 0-70%.
 
The virus has been around in the northeast US probably for at least 6 weeks. It appears there were no deaths until it reached a nursing home.

The virus has probably been making it rounds in the US since early January but no reported cases of severe illness. I am sure there have been severe cases that were misdiagnosed but how many. Before any travel restrictions how many people flew out of Wuhan. Surely some were infected.
 
alfaniner said:
I've seen hand sanitizer out and available at many shops. I wonder if there's a trend where those are now getting stolen?
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Trebuchet said:
I've just been to Costco in Sequim, Washington. Everyone was buying toilet paper. They were not, however buying hand sanitizer, because there was none to be had.
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Local Aldi is out of hand sanitizer. But there's plenty of regular hand soap (e.g. liquid hand soap in little pump bottles). Which, when you have running water available, is more effective than hand sanitizer.
 
Myriad said:
Local Aldi is out of hand sanitizer. But there's plenty of regular hand soap (e.g. liquid hand soap in little pump bottles). Which, when you have running water available, is more effective than hand sanitizer.
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Where I work, there are now hand sanitiser dispensers outside the toilets, and occasionally I see people wash their hands after using the facilities, then immediately rub hand sanitiser into them. Now, OK, it's good that they're taking that amount of care, but is there really any point to using the sanitiser immediately after washing with soap and warm water? I strongly suspect not.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
Where I work, there are now hand sanitiser dispensers outside the toilets, and occasionally I see people wash their hands after using the facilities, then immediately rub hand sanitiser into them. Now, OK, it's good that they're taking that amount of care, but is there really any point to using the sanitiser immediately after washing with soap and warm water? I strongly suspect not.

Dave
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right after washing my hands, I am often frustrated that I must use the newly cleaned hand to grasp the door handle to the restroom.
 
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