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2018 mid-term election

It's simple, the Dems took the suburbs. Cities overwhelmingly vote Democrat, Rural areas overwhelmingly vote Republican. As the American population becomes more urbanized this was inevitable.

That's why, despite everything else about police, the Democrats are going to win on a long enough timeline.
 
A little more bad news for Trump: Not only did the GOP lose a senate seat in Arizona, there is a leaked memo by the republican party that suggests that much of the blame for the loss resides with Trump.

From: https://www.abc15.com/news/state/ar...p-mccain-big-spending-on-mcsallys-senate-loss
The memo, obtained by the Washington Post , lists a number of factors as contributing to McSally's loss, including ad spending, a brutal primary, name recognition and President Trump's popularity in Arizona... "A certain segment of AZ Republicans was [sic] outright hostile to President Trump, and was against the Kavanaugh appointment."...

It wasn't the only reason given in the memo (it also suggested things like a crowded primary and financial problems harmed the Republican senate campaign. Still, that some republicans recognize the problem of tying themselves to President Stubby McBonespurs has got to be a good sign.
 
Segnosaur said:
A little more bad news for Trump: Not only did the GOP lose a senate seat in Arizona, there is a leaked memo by the republican party that suggests that much of the blame for the loss resides with Trump.

From: https://www.abc15.com/news/state/ar...p-mccain-big-spending-on-mcsallys-senate-loss
The memo, obtained by the Washington Post , lists a number of factors as contributing to McSally's loss, including ad spending, a brutal primary, name recognition and President Trump's popularity in Arizona... "A certain segment of AZ Republicans was [sic] outright hostile to President Trump, and was against the Kavanaugh appointment."...

It wasn't the only reason given in the memo (it also suggested things like a crowded primary and financial problems harmed the Republican senate campaign. Still, that some republicans recognize the problem of tying themselves to President Stubby McBonespurs has got to be a good sign.
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You mean women?
 
JoeMorgue said:
It's simple, the Dems took the suburbs. Cities overwhelmingly vote Democrat, Rural areas overwhelmingly vote Republican. As the American population becomes more urbanized this was inevitable.

That's why, despite everything else about police, the Democrats are going to win on a long enough timeline.
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This is why most political analysts say that Trump managed to tear down the red wall the GOP had built around the house. It was based on cutting purple suburbs off from the urban areas in redistricting, and teaming them with solidly red rural districts. When, this year, ths purple subrubs turned blue disaster ensued.
 
Even though they new House hasn't taken power yet, it looks we're getting an early look at how capitulating Democrats will be with the Trump's latest border wall gambit.

Congressional Democrats said Thursday they’re prepared to reject a new GOP plan to get President Trump the money he’s demanding for his border wall — escalating the chances of a partial government shutdown next week.
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Linky.

In the Senate Schumer has been acting a bit too cooperative, according to liberals.
 
Paul Ryan says history will view the departing House of Representatives very kindly.
I think history's judgement will be a lot more like Oliver Cromwell's opinion when dismissing the Rump Parliament:

t is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place,

which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your

practice of every vice.

Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government.

Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess

of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not

possess?

Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not

bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least

care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord's

temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices?

Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the

people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.

Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a

final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God's help,

and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do.

I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of

this place.

Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining

bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!
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No fan of the Lord Protector and I don't share his religious opinions, but so much of what he says applies to the departing congress.
"intolerably odious to the whole nation" is just classic.
 
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Just to indulge my inner grammarian.

"A certain segment of Arizona Republicans was [sic] outright hostile..."

That "was" is correct; the "segment" is singular.
 
dudalb said:
This is why most political analysts say that Trump managed to tear down the red wall the GOP had built around the house. It was based on cutting purple suburbs off from the urban areas in redistricting, and teaming them with solidly red rural districts. When, this year, ths purple subrubs turned blue disaster ensued.
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With more people moving to cities and leaving the rural areas, the population shift caused this odd situation. The rural districs go red with only 55% votes whereas the city or suburban districts go blue but with ”too many” votes. The areas will need to be redesigned as the rural areas go empty.
 
In this vivid nightmare that I'm apparently experiencing, an illegal voting scandal has finally been revealed. A scandal that doesn't involve illegal aliens. A scandal that doesn't involve IDs, fake or otherwise.

If this was a novel, the author would be laughed out of the publisher's lobby for plying such implausible nonsense.
 
varwoche said:
In this vivid nightmare that I'm apparently experiencing, an illegal voting scandal has finally been revealed. A scandal that doesn't involve illegal aliens. A scandal that doesn't involve IDs, fake or otherwise.

If this was a novel, the author would be laughed out of the publisher's lobby for plying such implausible nonsense.
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THis is actually by far the more likely way to illegally mess with an election - hack the machines, toss out ballots, etc. So far most people who get caught trying to vote twice are Republican idiots who try to show how easy it is to vote multiple times.
 
Mumbles said:
THis is actually by far the more likely way to illegally mess with an election - hack the machines, toss out ballots, etc. So far most people who get caught trying to vote twice are Republican idiots who try to show how easy it is to vote multiple times.
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Which has always been one of my arguments against strict voter ID requirements. It's a solution looking for a problem. If people want to fraudulently effect the election results, they'll do it at some other level where there will be more bang for the buck. And those ways can't be prevented by voter ID.
 
Mumbles said:
THis is actually by far the more likely way to illegally mess with an election - hack the machines, toss out ballots, etc. So far most people who get caught trying to vote twice are Republican idiots who try to show how easy it is to vote multiple times.
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Indeed. That's not the part I think is implausible. It's the plot twists.
 
What is going on in Wisconsin is pretty omininous. When you throw democracy out the window to keep a hold on power, which is what the GOP Legilature is doing in it's attempt at a massive transfer of power from the Governon'r office to the legislature, it endangers democracy itself.
And that is a sign of a democracy in trouble;Political factions are willing to destroy the basics of democracy to hold onto power.
 
dudalb said:
What is going on in Wisconsin is pretty omininous. When you throw democracy out the window to keep a hold on power, which is what the GOP Legilature is doing in it's attempt at a massive transfer of power from the Governon'r office to the legislature, it endangers democracy itself.
And that is a sign of a democracy in trouble;Political factions are willing to destroy the basics of democracy to hold onto power.
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Especially as the Democrats won 53% of the Wisconsin House vote, and only 36% of the seats. One can truly call the Wisconsin GOP the anti-democratic party.

I just hope that there is sufficient revlusion at such tactics to make them lose massively.

Nationwide, if Trump pushes the suburbs and small town America away from the Republicans, it could happen.

The current Republican party needs to suffer electoral oblivion and there needs to be a reasonable conservative party in its place.
 
jimbob said:
Especially as the Democrats won 53% of the Wisconsin House vote, and only 36% of the seats. One can truly call the Wisconsin GOP the anti-democratic party.
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I get the impression that they have conflated being legal with being democratic. The think that if they are not breaking any laws, they must still be working in the spirit of Democracy.

That's going to bite them in the butt.
 
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