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2018 mid-term election

Slings and Arrows said:
That's no way to talk about the soon-to-be Democratic party nominee.

"Join the fight club." -- Michael Avenatti
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See that is how a democracy is suposed to work. Leaders and political figures are always to be held accountable for their words and actions. They should never be above criticism. The opposite is the kind of thing you see in dictatorships and cults of personality. It is the stuff of dystopian science fiction like 1984 and big brother.

Now when I was growing up the story out of America through it’s films, TV and leaders was that was bad stuff. That is what Soviet Russia was about. It is what North Korea was about. But now we have pathetic blindly following citizens and a defacto state propaganda station where Trump’s turds sell like roses, his absurd lies never called out, and his dangerously decisive rhetoric allowed to stand.

That is not America when it was great. I hope these elections are a step back towards an America of integrity and noble values.
 
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Sideroxylon said:
Are you appalled and disgusted by this open racism?

We see a lot of these kinds of tu quoque’s dont we. “Look at the disgusting racist thing this Democrat said. If a Republican said it, imagine the outrage.” There is of course silence from these people about anything Republicans do say. I saw an African American comedian say this stuff on Twitter, his feed full of Trump support. Some bloody odd stuff going on in America.

If Avanatti did say what you quoted, it is Bizarre given the wide respect that Obama earnt. The quoted words dont like like they are driven by white supremacy but pragmatism and astounding boneheadedness.
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It's pretty much true. It's why Obama learned to code switch (change his accent, voice, movements based on the audience). I mean...



Doesn't mean it should be true, but it definitely is. And every podcast I've listened to with both men and women hosts, anyone who complains about someone's voice will complain about the woman.

Can those be overcome? Sure, in some cases. Hillary would be president now instead of the idiot were it not for the letter Comey sent after all, and she still won the popular vote. And that lawyer likely wouldn't win a single delegate in the primary unless he shapes up, very fast.
 
Sideroxylon said:
Dog whistling.

These elections are important. Need to stop the rise of white supremacy.
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It’s not a dog whistle, it’s a bullhorn.

Also, the graph posted indicates the rate at which ethnic groups are the victims of crime, not the rate at which they commit it.

Weird how when people out themselves as racist, they almost always simultaneously reveal themselves to be idiots as well.
 
Baylor said:
What the hell are you talking about?
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Pretty sure everyone ELSE here knows exactly what he is talking about.

Before you attempt to suggest peoples genetic makeup makes them more 'murderous', perhaps you should read about a certain point in history where a society of 'superior' white people decided murdering 6 million jews, and another 5 million other 'undesirables' was a good idea.
 
I'm trying to figure out if it was better or worse when racist even bothered to try and hide it.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I'm trying to figure out if it was better or worse when racist even bothered to try and hide it.
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There's a certain wry satisfaction when they play coy and then just come out with i, then act all shocked, shocked! SHOCKED!! that anyone would suggest they are racist.

The satisfaction is merely that we kinda already knew and saw it coming down 5th Avenue.
 
The Sparrow said:
Pretty sure everyone ELSE here knows exactly what he is talking about.

Before you attempt to suggest peoples genetic makeup makes them more 'murderous', perhaps you should read about a certain point in history where a society of 'superior' white people decided murdering 6 million jews, and another 5 million other 'undesirables' was a good idea.
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And then look at what the US, Uk, and especially the former USSR did to that society :D, and what happened to quite a few of its leaders (of the ones that were found guilty. the "lucky" ones got long prison sentences; the "unlucky" ones had their necks "stretched" ...:D:D:D)
 
johnny karate said:
It’s not a dog whistle, it’s a bullhorn.

Also, the graph posted indicates the rate at which ethnic groups are the victims of crime, not the rate at which they commit it.

Weird how when people out themselves as racist, they almost always simultaneously reveal themselves to be idiots as well.
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It's also weird how "conservatists" wants to define racism as any recognition of race or how different races are treated in society. Such a benign definition hides the real meaning: discriminatory and bigoted behavior caused by a belief in the superiority of ones own race and the inferiority of others.
 
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