114,000 US Troops not killed today!

Richard G said:
Do those civilian death counts include those killed in terrorist attacks?
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Yes, those are included. All reported civilian deaths that are the result by the war in Iraq are included, but it isn't necessary that the Americans led forces caused them.

If you have a problem with that, all you have to do is click on 'latest database entry' which gives you a list of the entries of all the incidents that are counted. Every entry has the incident included, the target and the sources. For some there is a 'details' in the 'incident code' column giving you details about how Iraqi Body Count has adjusted for error and inaccuracies.

To get a count you agree on, all you have to do is substract from the total the (probably 30-40) deaths you don't agree on should be in there.
 
Have there been many terror attacks in Iraq? Seems like most of the bombing and such was aimed at military targets.
 
Tmy said:
Have there been many terror attacks in Iraq? Seems like most of the bombing and such was aimed at military targets.
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Police stations, government buildings, UN offices and other "authority" targets account for most of the non-military attacks. Those aren't strictly civilian targets so it really comes down to your definition of terrorism.

I think the attacks on NGOs, mosques and infastructure are definitely terror attacks. The disturbing thing is that sort of terrorism didn't exist in Iraq until the US took over.
 
Ursa Major said:

The disturbing thing is that sort of terrorism didn't exist in Iraq until the US took over.
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True. They had a whole different sort of terror in Iraq until then.
 
I suppose the International Red Cross counts as a military target with you guys when it "really comes down to your definition of terrorism." :rolleyes:

Link.

Let me understand this. If someone deliberately blows up a police station or a U.N. building, that doesn't count as terrorism in your book?
 
Luke T. said:
I suppose the International Red Cross counts as a military target with you guys when it "really comes down to your definition of terrorism." :rolleyes:

Link.

Let me understand this. If someone deliberately blows up a police station or a U.N. building, that doesn't count as terrorism in your book?
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Well I usually think of terror attacks as aimed at civilians in order to freak out the population. Like blowingup a bus or mall.

If the Isrealies attack a Palistianian police station, would you call that terrorism?
 
Luke T. said:


True. They had a whole different sort of terror in Iraq until then.
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Yes. Luckily for Iraq, America is apparently in the business of freeing countries of tyranny without UN support.

While we're on, what country is next on the Freedom Fries menu... Y''know, after the mess in Iraq is eventually sorted out.

China? Nope. That country can fight back. Don't go there.
Saudi Arabia? Vested interests. Don't go there.
Indonesia? Vested interests. Don't go there.
Congo? Not a big vote-getter I guess. Or are there vested interests there as well?
 
Tmy said:
Calling up the draft would be political suicide for Bush n company. (hmmm the Democrats should be spinning this possibilty)


This reminds me of the coverage I saw this one soilders funeral. Big procession, military honors, lots of press coverage, hundreds of people packed the church to show their respects. It was obvious that the liberal media, and the entire town, blew the whole thing out of proportion in order to embarass Bush.

The Vietnam Memorial, a big black marble slap in the face of Richard Nixon. Veterens Day, and annual humilation of President Taft!!!!
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I would posit that many attended for many different reasons, I doubt that the Info-Tainment Industry did it to embarass GWB! They did it for rating! The days of embarassing the president are dependant on the president pulling a Slick Willy.

i hope the hoopa was to honer the family of the dead.

The Viet Nam emorial is a sysmbol of grief and rememberance, I don't view it as an attack on Nixon.

But hey thats my POV, many attend for many different reasons.
 
Luke T. said:
I suppose the International Red Cross counts as a military target with you guys when it "really comes down to your definition of terrorism."

Link.

Let me understand this. If someone deliberately blows up a police station or a U.N. building, that doesn't count as terrorism in your book?
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The Red Cross is an NGO. Police (and the UN for that matter) are paramilitary organizations and logical targets for any group resisting an occupation (like the French Resistance, for example).
 
Jon_in_london said:
Better make that 113,998
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Please don't keep score like this, it only gives the right wingers further ammunition to make their specious "Leftists are really want all the soldiers killed" claims

If you are going to keep score, at least be arithmetically correct, I make it 113,992
 
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