10 story hole in WTC 7 - Part II

Thermite had not previously been used in a CD. That does not mean it could not be used in a CD.
Since thermite has this nasty habit of following the law of gravity, I would say with great confidence that it could not be used in a CD with any degree of reliability. Can you provide any proof that it could be used in a CD of a building?
 
Rig the wtc with conventional explosives, blow it up, and blame Bin Laden. See, if the NWO had me in charge I would have saved them a lot of money and risk, and would have kept those intrepid investigooglers off their trail.

Vote for twinstead for NWO president in the next NWO general elections!!
 
The fact that it's second hand information is not relevant. The Chaplin was not lying and his statement can be taken at face value.
When considered with all the other statements it reinforces those statements.

Ok then, how about this statement?

Mike said that WTC7 would have collapsed even if the other towers had not collapsed because of the fires. He said there were 50,000 gallons of diesel fuel and 20,000 gallons of coolant. This was a huge fire.

Do we take this at face value?
 
Since thermite has this nasty habit of following the law of gravity, I would say with great confidence that it could not be used in a CD with any degree of reliability.
You don't know what is possible.

Can you provide any proof that it could be used in a CD of a building?
No. So what. I'm not a demolitions expert, neither are you.

This is just a denial tactic. "It can't be because . . ."
 
You don't know what is possible.

No. So what. I'm not a demolitions expert, neither are you.

This is just a denial tactic. "It can't be because . . ."

By all means show us how thermite could be made to cut horizontaly through all those columns you say had to have been cut at the same time?

ETA - In fact please show us a thermite CD from anywhere.
 
Ok then, how about this statement?

Mike said that WTC7 would have collapsed even if the other towers had not collapsed because of the fires.
Do we take this at face value?
He was expression an opinion not relating something he saw.

He said there were 50,000 gallons of diesel fuel and 20,000 gallons of coolant. This was a huge fire.
He was right about the diesel fuel but that's the first I have heard about the coolant. The fires were noted in the NIST reports.
 
By all means show us how thermite could be made to cut horizontaly through all those columns you say had to have been cut at the same time?

ETA - In fact please show us a thermite CD from anywhere.
Rhetorical questions

I don't know how thermite was used. Does that prove anything, no.

We both know that thermite is the only known explanation for the molted metal.
 
You don't know what is possible.
Neither do you. Why are you making up possibilities that have no basis on reality?
No. So what. I'm not a demolitions expert, neither are you.
Then why are you posting as if you are one?
This is just a denial tactic. "It can't be because . . ."
Wrong. All available info backs what I say. Only fantasy confirms your believe.
 
Molten aluminum is very easy to spot. Even for untrained eyes.

How do you propose to distinguish molten aluminum from, say, molten zinc? I think you're making this up as well.

As for the thermal imaging, there was definitely high heat present. Would you agree that the heat was more than ...say a normal demolition?

Of course. The structures were on fire. That is not a feature of "normal demolition."
 
I don't know how thermite was used. Does that prove anything, no.
It does prove that the basis for your belief is pure fantasy.
We both know that thermite is the only known explanation for the molted metal.
False. Thermite is not even close to being an explanation for the "molten metal" that was allegedly reported. As been stated before by people that know something about thermite, there is no way for thermite to be hot enough for a long enough time to create any more "molten metal" than the torch example I posted. Since you are unable to provide any evidence whatsoever to support your believe, it is nothing but pure fantasy that has no basis on reality.
 
He was expression an opinion not relating something he saw..

Except he saw the fires. What did the Chaplain see again? Again you show your hypocrisy and dishonesty.


He was right about the diesel fuel but that's the first I have heard about the coolant. The fires were noted in the NIST reports.

He saw the fires, he said they were huge and in his opinion as the building engineer he said they would have caused the collapse of the building.

Do we take this at face value?
 
Rhetorical questions

I don't know how thermite was used. Does that prove anything, no.

We both know that thermite is the only known explanation for the molted metal.

That is a lie, they are not rhetorical. How does one get thermite to cut horizontally? If you are claiming it can happen you must now it can be done or that there is a mechanism for it?

Assumptions time and time again.
 
Mackey - I believe we've seen worse fires than were in either tower or WTC7 inside the same complex. The structure directly across the street from WTC7 was an inferno. It didn't collapse, nor did it have the same reading on the thermal photo weeks later.

I'm always amazed that there are still those debating this issue that don't understand that thermite can be used for demolition - specifically cutting core columns. Nano-thermite in an aerogel form can be sprayed on. Would make a steel beam look exactly like that one they found in WTC7. Swiss cheese.
 
Mackey - I believe we've seen worse fires than were in either tower or WTC7 inside the same complex. The structure directly across the street from WTC7 was an inferno. It didn't collapse, nor did it have the same reading on the thermal photo weeks later.

You believe incorrectly.

The structure you're referring to is WTC 6, which experienced massive internal collapse. The only reason it didn't totally collapse is because it was a much shorter building -- the gravitational energy per square foot was roughly fifty times lower.

We've all discussed this for years. Please, I beg you, try to educate yourself before trying to lecture all of us. You bring nothing new.

I'm always amazed that there are still those debating this issue that don't understand that thermite can be used for demolition - specifically cutting core columns. Nano-thermite in an aerogel form can be sprayed on. Would make a steel beam look exactly like that one they found in WTC7. Swiss cheese.

Total balderdash. It has never been used for demolition. Problems in using for demolition would be severe and have not been evaluated, never mind refined to practice. Spraying it on would be about the dumbest way of causing a demoltion imaginable, and as explained above, might not even work.

And the "Swiss Cheese," as we've told so many people I can't even believe it, is evidence against thermite. Thermite temperatures would have destroyed the eutectic completely. A "Swiss Cheesed" structural element that failed because of "Swiss Cheesing" would have fractured, not just had holes put into it, so that steel was not anywhere near its structural limit at any time before, during, or after the "Swiss Cheesing" took place.

I repeat my question, since you failed to answer before: Who told you this? Why did you choose to believe them? This is the only thing I'm interested in from you at this point -- you are a font of error where science is concerned.
 
Elmondo, no argument here. I'm just giving an explanation for the phenomenon found.

You must know that as time goes by more evidence comes to light. Projects that were worked on by the military 20 years ago, are just now being understood. If 9/11 was a military job, there could have been substances and methods used that you will never know.
 
Oh, one other bit of madness I missed

... is this piece of hilarity:

Nano-thermite in an aerogel form can be sprayed on.

Wow.

Do you know what "aerogel" is? Of course you don't, you're in the Truth Movement. Here, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel

Aerogel is a foam designed to be extremely low density. You do this for one of a few reasons, either thermal insulation or to provide a medium to capture high-speed, small objects inflicting little damage. That's it.

By virtue of its extremely low density, a "thermite" made in this fashion would not generate enough heat to do a damn thing. You could douse me in "aerogel thermite," ignite it, and I wouldn't even get warm. It wouldn't even ignite the few hairs I have left on my head after trying to educate you buffoons.

See the picture of scientist Peter Tsou in the article? He works at my plant, and the specimen he's holding is in the von Karman auditorium. It's neat stuff. It is absolutely nothing like you imagine.

This is probably destined to be another "pyroclastic flow" for the Truth Movement.

Stop talking about things you don't understand. It's absolutely pathetic.
 
Mackey - you are quite the physicist, my man. You trumpet Bazant (who's been debunked at least twice since his paper came out - come to think of it, many times since ALL his rewrites began), and you deny the easiest answer to the phenomenon witnessed (Occam's Razor and all that jazz).

Is it really so hard to imagine that the towers were obliterated with explosives? That WTC 7 really WAS imploded? The most obvious cause is usually correct.
 
Mackey - it's no use denying nano-technology. The delivery mechanisms for such, as you can imagine, are varied and clever. Unless we catch the ones responsible for imploding and exploding the WTC, we will likely not know EXACTLY how they did it beyond mere speculation.

You can argue speculation all day long. I've seen you do it.
 
Mackey - you are quite the physicist, my man. You trumpet Bazant (who's been debunked at least twice since his paper came out - come to think of it, many times since ALL his rewrites began), and you deny the easiest answer to the phenomenon witnessed (Occam's Razor and all that jazz).

Is it really so hard to imagine that the towers were obliterated with explosives? That WTC 7 really WAS imploded? The most obvious cause is usually correct.
I would agree, but I just can't get past the whole complete lack of any sound of said explosives thing. You know..



 

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