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10,000 Yosemite tourists could face deadly virus

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But you haven't backed up your claim of "high fatality rate" with anything, since you have no data on total number of illnesses, only number of hospitalized patients. ...
Yes I have, but you aren't looking at the data for whatever reason. Let me try again:
In contrast, a recent HPS seroprevalence study focused on selected occupational groups with frequent contact with rodents and their excreta (e.g., farm workers, laborers, professionals, home repairers, service industry and park service workers, heating and plumbing contractors, utility workers, and technicians) found no evidence of SNV infection.
These occupations would represent greater exposure than the tourists and the baseline seroprevalence was minimal. It's not always clear what results in the clusters of cases other than sizable increases in rodent populations.
 
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Too bad the media didn't include what future visitors could do to reduce their exposure potential. Milder winters coupled with drought conditions are perfect conditions for increased hantavirus prevalence among rodent populations as well as increased transmission to humans.

Este
What they need to do is better housekeeping of the tent cabins. That's the thing which stands out when I look at the reports.

There are a lot of other public service messages how to manage rodent nests put out by local health departments where cases occur. Not the highest priority, unfortunately, until these clusters occur.
 
What they need to do is better housekeeping of the tent cabins. That's the thing which stands out when I look at the reports.

There are a lot of other public service messages how to manage rodent nests put out by local health departments where cases occur. Not the highest priority, unfortunately, until these clusters occur.
It's unfortunately an uphill battle given the way these tent cabins, shelters and what have you are built, not enough staff to care properly for them and the daunting number of tourists that circulate through parks along with the prolific rodent resevoir habits and weather and it's impossible to eliminate exposure potential.

Este
 
Needless to say we hate it when Hantavirus breaks out like this. We are so dependent on Yosemite tourism that this will probably be a real hurt to the local economy.
 
Needless to say we hate it when Hantavirus breaks out like this. We are so dependent on Yosemite tourism that this will probably be a real hurt to the local economy.
Too bad it's getting late in the year and my vacation time is dwindling. I'd love to go to a less crowded Yosemite.
 
It's unfortunately an uphill battle given the way these tent cabins, shelters and what have you are built, not enough staff to care properly for them and the daunting number of tourists that circulate through parks along with the prolific rodent resevoir habits and weather and it's impossible to eliminate exposure potential.

Este
As a result of growing up in New mexico, Whenever I go into a place where Deer Mice might lurk, I take a spay bottle of dilute bleach solution, wear a mask, and spray the dog-**** out of the place, especially in dark corners and
cracks.
It works, and is recommended by several health departments.
 
As a result of growing up in New mexico, Whenever I go into a place where Deer Mice might lurk, I take a spay bottle of dilute bleach solution, wear a mask, and spray the dog-**** out of the place, especially in dark corners and
cracks.
It works, and is recommended by several health departments.
Wet it down, don't vacuum or sweep when you clean up mice droppings or nests, is what I teach in worker safety classes.

The bleach and mask may add a layer of protection but as a note of caution, I don't think there's a lot of data on the size of the airborne particles that transmit the disease. We don't know if you just need an N95 dust mask or if even an N100 is enough. Viruses are smaller than the particle size dust masks filter out so it depends on if the particles travel on bits of dust or if they float free. It doesn't mean not to use the masks, just don't rely on them and stir up the dust without wetting it down.
 
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Yes I have, but you aren't looking at the data for whatever reason. Let me try again:These occupations would represent greater exposure than the tourists and the baseline seroprevalence was minimal. It's not always clear what results in the clusters of cases other than sizable increases in rodent populations.

So you do agree with me that the OP's base news article is alarmist? So then, the OP is also alarmist.

But my point is that any claim of high, low, or no fatality rate ought to include the cases of subclinical disease.

What would be the fatality rate of the common cold by your standard of only counting the hospitalization cases? Vs my point would be counting EVERYBODY that gets the cold. Or shingles? Or plain old flu? How about we only count flu cases that are admitted to ICU? How about the rate of fatalities for traffic accidents, only counting those hospitalized? So why only count hospitalization for Hanta? and not subclinical too?

I'm sure the 1.14% of + serologies out number the members that were hospitalized, (aren't you?) but beyond that every thing so far is guess work. At least from the data you have supplied.
 
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So you do agree with me that the OP's base news article is alarmist? So then, the OP is also alarmist.
Oh heaven's yes. It happens anytime public health turns to the news media to reach potentially exposed people.

But my point is that any claim of high, low, or no fatality rate ought to include the cases of subclinical disease.
If it's relevant data the health dept usually does. Look at the West Nile notices and you'll see they mention the biggest risk is the elderly and immunocompromised and that most people get a mild illness or no illness.

There really is little evidence of any substantial amount of subclinical hantavirus. But it's obvious 6 fatalities with 10,000 exposed that the relative risk is very low.

What would be the fatality rate of the common cold by your standard of only counting the hospitalization cases?
You are misstating 'my standard' and you continue to ignore the zero positive serologies in all but the most concentrated exposure group.

I'm sure the 1.14% of + serologies out number the members that were hospitalized, (aren't you?) but beyond that every thing so far is guess work. At least from the data you have supplied.
It depends how many people they tested . That could represent 3 people. I don't know. I haven't seen the actual data.
 
1 of 5 is a 20% fatality rate, and that's incredibly high.

In the 50's it's hard to say if they had an accurate case count. There wasn't a test for the disease and some of those could have had other illnesses. Still, 15% is a very high fatality rate.

In addition, there are different strains of hantavirus around the world. They don't all have the same fatality rate.
 
Here's a little more detailed epidemiology:
These guidelines focus on the epidemiology of hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS), a disease thus far reported only in the Western Hemisphere. No cases are known to have occurred in Mexico, Central America, or the Caribbean. HPS has been linked to at least six different viruses, with modest clinical differences noted between cases infected with differing viral species....

...In North America, at least four distinct hantaviruses have been associated with HPS. Although the majority of cases are thought to have been the result of Sin Nombre virus infection ...

Of the first 23 cases of HPS occurring in 1993, 15 (65%) died as a result of their illness. The overall case fatality rate of HPS cases in the United States is 44%. However, this has steadily declined since the time of the initial outbreak in 1993; cases with onset of illness after 1 January 1994 had a case fatality rate of approximately 35%. Of those patients with onset of illness during 1997, 3 of 17 (18%) did not survive their illness. The apparent decreasing mortality of HPS can most likely be attributed to improved clinical management rather than changes in the virus or a specific pharmacological therapy. In addition, increased awareness among clinicians and improved diagnostic capabilities have undoubtedly led to the detection of more mild illnesses and improved characterization of the full spectrum of clinical disease.
When they say cases in the Western hemisphere, I's guess that's because related viruses such as the Korean hantavirus don't cause the HPS, but I'd have to look into that.

Here's a link to the whole report: http://www.paho.org/English/AD/DPC/CD/hantavirus-americas.htm
 
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As a result of growing up in New mexico, Whenever I go into a place where Deer Mice might lurk, I take a spay bottle of dilute bleach solution, wear a mask, and spray the dog-**** out of the place, especially in dark corners and
cracks.
It works, and is recommended by several health departments.

Yup. As SG mentioned, an N100 mask would be better but spraying it down is key. Never sweep up any rodent excreta either. I have surveyed some areas that have had a 75% hantavirus prevalence in the rodent population and most of those critters were trapped in buildings.

Here's a little more detailed epidemiology:When they say cases in the Western hemisphere, I's guess that's because related viruses such as the Korean hantavirus don't cause the HPS, but I'd have to look into that.

Here's a link to the whole report: http://www.paho.org/English/AD/DPC/CD/hantavirus-americas.htm
The Asian and European hantavirus strains cause HFRS or haemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome.

Este
 
Yup. As SG mentioned, an N100 mask would be better but spraying it down is key. Never sweep up any rodent excreta either. I have surveyed some areas that have had a 75% hantavirus prevalence in the rodent population and most of those critters were trapped in buildings.
Our local population had ~30% prevalence when surveyed many years ago. The culprit deer mice make their way into my house every few months. There have been a couple cases in the area over the last couple decades. It's just not very commonly transmitted but I still take no chances.

The Asian and European hantavirus strains cause HFRS or haemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome.

Este
I'll have to read more about the two different presentations. I knew about the hemorrhagic disease but now I'm curious how it might be continent related.

There is also a strain in Argentina that probably was spread person to person. I don't believe it has spread beyond secondary cases but I'm not sure.


(I see I mistyped "I'd" :p ).
 
Our local population had ~30% prevalence when surveyed many years ago. The culprit deer mice make their way into my house every few months. There have been a couple cases in the area over the last couple decades. It's just not very commonly transmitted but I still take no chances.
One of the epidemiologically-interesting things about hanta in the U.S. is that often people infected are travelling so where they become symptomatic is far from where they were infected so local physicians aren't often aware.

I'll have to read more about the two different presentations. I knew about the hemorrhagic disease but now I'm curious how it might be continent related.
It's also reservoir-specific. In other words, each strain is associated with a specific rodent or insectivore host.

There is also a strain in Argentina that probably was spread person to person. I don't believe it has spread beyond secondary cases but I'm not sure.
That was an isolated case that took place in a nosocomial setting and involved blood to blood transmission.

Este
 
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That was an isolated case that took place in a nosocomial setting and involved blood to blood transmission.

Este
Really? So the infected health care worker(s) had blood exposures? Wow, I hadn't heard that. All I recall was that a patient was transported some distance to a hospital and at least one health care worker at the hospital then got infected.
 
Really? So the infected health care worker(s) had blood exposures? Wow, I hadn't heard that. All I recall was that a patient was transported some distance to a hospital and at least one health care worker at the hospital then got infected.
This is the one I was thinking of: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9284576 However, I came across this which is more robust evidence of person-person transmission. It's not at all common if it is occuring and either some South American strains are unique in their ability for person-person transmission or no one is looking hard in other places.

Este
 
Saw this on Google news, not sure if it was mentioned yet:

Yosemite hantavirus warning extends worldwide

U.S. health officials have sent warnings to 39 other countries that their citizens who stayed in Yosemite National Park tent cabins this summer may have been exposed to a deadly mouse-borne hantavirus, a park service epidemiologist said on Tuesday.
Of the 10,000 people thought to be at risk of contracting hantavirus pulmonary syndrome from their stays in Yosemite between June and August, some 2,500 live outside the United States, Dr. David Wong told Reuters in an interview.
 
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